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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Aug 13, 2019 1:43:45 GMT -5
There's a lot to hold against Ninja Gaiden, but the game plays smooth as hell IMO.
I might play Vice: Project Doom some time when it comes out on Switch, it's reasonably expensive on the aftermarket. I am completely baffeled by the order they're releasing these games in, though. And I'm also not sure why this particular game won't be released in Japan.
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Post by moran on Aug 13, 2019 5:31:04 GMT -5
Vice is good fun, tough at times. Cool aesthetic too, a little bit Blade Runner/Highlander with city city and background designs.
Ninja Gaiden is getting such a rough rap nowadays, I’d take NG over Vice.
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Post by dsparil on Aug 13, 2019 6:49:43 GMT -5
I have never even heard of Vice. Seems like it's a little bit of a forgotten game. Hopefully it's a sign that Nintendo is going to bring over lesser known games that never got VC releases. I've barely touched any of the Switch Online games aside from Ninja Gaiden and I'm still not sure why I was compelled to play through that.
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Post by Snake on Aug 13, 2019 11:59:16 GMT -5
The NES Ninja Gaiden trilogy is worth a playthrough, to get a feel for what kids enjoyed back in the 1980's, early 1990's. There weren't many NES games with cinematic cut-scenes to drive the story of an action game. Plus, there's always the difficulty level that Gen-X/Gen-Y gamers reminisce about - a level of difficulty that isn't so bad once you get the hang of the play mechanics. And of course, ninjas/shinobi were so en vogue in that decade. Seems like the most significant ninja games of the past 10 years revolve around Naruto.
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Post by X-pert74 on Aug 13, 2019 18:40:02 GMT -5
I think the Ninja Gaiden NES trilogy is one of the most solid in gaming. The original Ninja Gaiden in particular is up there as one of my favorite games I'd ever played. It's seriously top-notch as far as action-platforming is concerned.
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Post by windfisch on Aug 13, 2019 19:03:44 GMT -5
For me it's Ninja Ryukenden 3, as it feels more fluid and balanced (note that I'm talking about the JP version) gameplay-wise than the previous titles. And it looks and sounds fantastic, too. The first one, while still a good game, is my least favorite of the bunch: It seems the cheapest in terms of difficulty and visually it looks a bit dull compared to the other two entries.
I haven't played enough of Vice to judge it properly. What i will say is that it may very well be one of the best looking NES games out there. Gameplay-wise it didn't quite grab me as the Ninja Gaiden games so far.. I'll give it another shot one day.
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Post by toei on Aug 13, 2019 20:31:46 GMT -5
I'm more of a Shinobi guy. The NES Ninja Gaiden games are pure trash to me. They seem to have been purposely designed to be as annoying as possible. Enemies appearing in mid-air to knock you down and kill you instantly, constantly respawning enemies (a big no-no for me), troll design everywhere. I've finished the first and third games, and like neither. Whenever I try the second game, I get disgusted with the obnoxious level design - like that whole level where wind keeps fucking with your movement - and quit. I just can't stand that series at all.
Vice is better than the NES, honestly. It's smoother and more responsive and has more fair and regular level design than games of that genre usually do on that system.
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Post by GamerL on Aug 14, 2019 0:02:54 GMT -5
I've not played the NES Ninja Gaidens, but the Xbox Ninja Gaiden is certainly one of the best action games I've ever played. I especially love.... Rachel. The NES Ninja Gaiden trilogy is worth a playthrough, to get a feel for what kids enjoyed back in the 1980's, early 1990's. There weren't many NES games with cinematic cut-scenes to drive the story of an action game. Plus, there's always the difficulty level that Gen-X/Gen-Y gamers reminisce about - a level of difficulty that isn't so bad once you get the hang of the play mechanics. And of course, ninjas/shinobi were so en vogue in that decade. Seems like the most significant ninja games of the past 10 years revolve around Naruto. I've always found it interesting how the ninja obsession in American culture predates more general Japanophilia.
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Post by retr0gamer on Aug 14, 2019 2:44:32 GMT -5
The NES Ninja Gaiden trilogy is worth a playthrough, to get a feel for what kids enjoyed back in the 1980's, early 1990's. There weren't many NES games with cinematic cut-scenes to drive the story of an action game. Plus, there's always the difficulty level that Gen-X/Gen-Y gamers reminisce about - a level of difficulty that isn't so bad once you get the hang of the play mechanics. And of course, ninjas/shinobi were so en vogue in that decade. Seems like the most significant ninja games of the past 10 years revolve around Naruto. I love me some Ninja Gaiden. But the feature/bug of the last boss in the original game can go and fuck itself. I've not played the NES Ninja Gaidens, but the Xbox Ninja Gaiden is certainly one of the best action games I've ever played. I especially love.... Rachel. Her.... bukkake scene always makes me laugh at how blatant and unsubtle it is. God, I'd kill for another Ninja Gaiden game from Team Ninja in that style.
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Post by shelverton on Aug 14, 2019 2:46:00 GMT -5
Meanwhile i Europe, the word ’ninja’ was FORBIDDEN in all these game titles. It still cracks me up to think about cause it’s so ridiculous. Though I actually prefer the name Blue Shadow over Shadow of the Ninja, but that’s about it.
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Post by windfisch on Aug 14, 2019 4:27:20 GMT -5
Yeah, we called them "Heroes" here. Also "Shadow Warriors" is not that bad a title, it's at least less non-sensical than "Ninja Side Story". I believe it was just the UK that had problems with the term "Ninja" and the depiction of Nunchucks, though. They just didn't bother to make one version for them and another for the rest of Europe.
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Post by retr0gamer on Aug 14, 2019 5:12:32 GMT -5
Yeah it was the UK. It was kind of folded in with the video nasty outrage during the 80's. Think there was an assault that shocked the nation involving nunchuks so depictions of ninjas were banned and two bar nunchuks outlawed. You ended up with a lot of fighting games were a two bar nunchuk was replaced with a 3-4 bar nunchuk in Europe.
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Post by lurker on Aug 14, 2019 9:58:34 GMT -5
In case anyone was curious about the layout and menu music...
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Post by Snake on Aug 14, 2019 12:11:18 GMT -5
The NES Ninja Gaiden trilogy is worth a playthrough, to get a feel for what kids enjoyed back in the 1980's, early 1990's. There weren't many NES games with cinematic cut-scenes to drive the story of an action game. Plus, there's always the difficulty level that Gen-X/Gen-Y gamers reminisce about - a level of difficulty that isn't so bad once you get the hang of the play mechanics. And of course, ninjas/shinobi were so en vogue in that decade. Seems like the most significant ninja games of the past 10 years revolve around Naruto. I've always found it interesting how the ninja obsession in American culture predates more general Japanophilia. The culture of weeaboos have an interesting evolution. Lots of karate and ninjas. We can thank Sonny Chiba films, Zatoichi, Karate Kid, Steven Seagal, Ninja Turtles, and the whole trend of martial arts B-movies like the American Ninja series. The localized anime consisted of gritty stuff. Golgo 13, Akira, Fist of the North Star, Vampire Hunter D, Urotsukidoji. Even Animated Series Batman learned how to fight via Karate lessons and even the O-nemuri Touch (the "Great Sleep" touch, the touch of death). Samurai, Shinobi, Sushi, Bonsai plants. Now weebs are a powerhouse to market to. I mean, even just taking an English loan word like "Costume Play," has turned around and become a global word and culture, as "Cosplay," that even gets featured as trivia questions on Jeopardy. Japanophiles now seem less focused on martial arts, and more on: food/cuisine, moe harem anime, figures/toys/gunpla, cars/tuning culture, harujuku fashion, etc etc. To say the least of the handful of maid cafes, and even bars that opened up in the area for a time.
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Post by Snake on Aug 14, 2019 12:16:17 GMT -5
I love me some Ninja Gaiden. But the feature/bug of the last boss in the original game can go and fuck itself. Single most discouraging thing about that game. Beat the 1st boss, get robbed of all your sub-weapons. Lose horribly to Jacquio. Get sent all the way back to the beginning of the gauntlet. Thank goodness they didn't make you fight the trio of end bosses restarting with the Masked Devil. At least Ninja Gaiden 2 only made you re-start at the 2nd half of the last stage.
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