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Post by Discoalucard on Sept 22, 2014 21:52:14 GMT -5
 www.hardcoregaming101.net/smashtv/smashtv.htmBig money! Big prizes! I love it! I spent quite a number of quarters on both of these back in the day. Definitely titles that hold up better in the arcades though. Too bad the SNES port of Total Carnage was so poor too. I remember the Genesis version of Smash TV being at least serviceable. |
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Post by BdR on Sept 23, 2014 2:41:04 GMT -5
Actually I really liked Smash TV on the SNES, played it a lot back in the day. Also, the NES version had an interesting control setup. One player could use 2 separate controllers to simulate the dual joysticks from the arcade machine. It also supported the Four Score periferal, so 2 players could use 2 controllers each, as the Angry Video Game Nerd explains in this recent video..  |
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Post by PooshhMao on Sept 23, 2014 2:48:41 GMT -5
Awesome.
Trivia: I originally wanted to buy Axelay, but my friend got it first so I got Smash TV instead. Didn't regret it, brilliant port of an excellent game.
I also got to play the Game Gear version, but that one didn't work nearly as well.
Too bad THQ got the rights to SNES Total Carnage, because they botched that port.
Tiny article nitpick:
It gets pretty intense, especially since a single touch from any enemy or projectile will instantly kill your contestant.
That's only true for the non-humanoid enemies - the grunts need to swing (and hit you with) their clubs. Short time frame, but you can walk over them without dying.
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Post by GamerL on Sept 23, 2014 5:08:44 GMT -5
I love Smash TV, I remember playing it in Midway Arcade Treasures about a decade ago I guess and then later buying it on Xbox Live
I always thought it was a shame that during Midway's period of updating their arcade classics for the then current consoles they never got around to Smash TV before dying
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Post by redd88 on Sept 23, 2014 13:27:43 GMT -5
Being the younger brother and having to share an SNES, I was forced to receive the "less popular games" whenever it came to birthdays.
So Total Carnage was supposedly one of those games. But as bad of a port as it was, I became really good at it and my friends were always really impressed by this.
To this day though, I could never get the secret ending. I was only able to beat it once and that was it. I have absolutely no idea how to get every key to the pleasure dome and I certainly do not want to try.
As far as hard games go, Total Carnage is exceptionally hard.
So I definitely tip my hat to you.
Anyways, there was a cheat for the SNES version where if you placed last on the hiscore board and entered “YAMID” as your initials, you’d get access to a few of General Ahboob’s sound bytes that were taken out from the SNES version? - I finally got around to playing the arcade version a couple of times, but I can’t seem to recognize these sound bytes anywhere.
So I was wondering if someone whose more familiar with the two versions could shed some light on this?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:22:10 GMT -5
There used to be an arcade around here that had The Grid. I regret not having played it more. I remember they made it a grindy pain in the ass to unlock the extra characters (you saved an account on the machine), though. But I really wouldn't have minded more arcade FPS/TPS games with trackballs.
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Post by TheChosen on Sept 23, 2014 16:33:25 GMT -5
Also, the NES version had an interesting control setup. One player could use 2 separate controllers to simulate the dual joysticks from the arcade machine. It also supported the Four Score periferal, so 2 players could use 2 controllers each, as the Angry Video Game Nerd explains in this recent video.. This is the main reason I love the NES version. The double d-pads wear down your thumbs pretty fast, but its such a unique use of controllers that you just gotta like it. |
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Post by Sac (a.k.a Icaras) on Sept 23, 2014 22:27:43 GMT -5
I played the Commodore 64 version of Smash TV quite a bit (I was lucky in the mid 90s that a department had found stash of unsold C64 games and were selling them cheap. I regret not getting more than Smash TV). I was able to get up to the last level, but never had a chance to master the game, as my 2nd joystick stopped working, and the game didn't feel worth playing after that  I also once had the chance to buy the PC version of Total Carnage,but I opted for a copy of Ultimate Body Blows instead. I'm quite happy my 1st exposure was via the Mid Arcade Treasures games. Most videos I see of both games people seem to be about the same skill as me and die all the time, but it'd be neat to see a video if somebody could get good enough at the games to 1CC them. I'm not sure if that possible tho, lol. |
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Post by Bobinator on Sept 23, 2014 23:35:26 GMT -5
Funny you should mention that. I have no idea how this guy did this. By all accounts, it should be literally impossible.
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Post by jorpho on Sept 24, 2014 1:44:12 GMT -5
Squished some typos. Also, some notes: I'm pretty sure Scarface, the second boss, can be harmed with the normal gun, unlike the other bosses. (At least, that's what I recall from Nintendo Power's "Top Secret Passwords" guide from back in the day. Why do I retain these factoids?) I did spend some time with the Genesis version, and while there is only one credit in the first arena, I ended up with four credits the one time I managed to make it to the second. I don't know offhand whether this is by default or if extra credits are awarded based on your score. The ending screens from the arcade version of Total Carnage are bugged! See www.polygon.com/features/2013/1/9/3848592/total-carnage-confusing-ending . Those Total Carnage guys have got to be the most unrealistically proportioned men I've ever come across in video games. Maybe Ultraverse Prime beats them, but he's from comics and probably doesn't count. It's weird how the Smash TV guys are shirtless in-game but have the Tron-like jumpsuits in the boxart. I guess the game seems less violent that way? I recall that it fooled me back in the day; they make the game seem kind of harmless. |
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Post by bakudon on Sept 24, 2014 23:47:40 GMT -5
I think you can hurt the bits around his face with the standard pea shooter, but probably not his actual face. Not 100 % sure though.
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Post by Woody Alien on Sept 25, 2014 5:37:18 GMT -5
Since Total Carnage was made around the period of Gulf War I, probably the claim "the mother of all boss monsters" was inspired by Saddam's similar claim about "the mother of all battles" (mocked countless times, even on Animaniacs). Also, maybe TC was forgotten soon unlike Smash TV because it had been mocked right from the start. See the original version of Worms:  |
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Post by BdR on Sept 26, 2014 9:33:36 GMT -5
Since Total Carnage was made around the period of Gulf War I, probably the claim "the mother of all boss monsters" was inspired by Saddam's similar claim about "the mother of all battles" (mocked countless times, even on Animaniacs). Total Cargnage has more references to Gulf War, for example the reporter in the cut scene there is a factory with a "baby milk" sign. |
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Post by Sac (a.k.a Icaras) on Sept 26, 2014 22:37:13 GMT -5
I'd say Total Carnage's downfall was that it came out alongside Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter 2. By then, I can remember going into arcades and there being lines to play the newest MK and SF games, but nobody really paid much attention to other releases.
And yeah, the Gulf War parody is really obvious in this game, albeit in a super cartoony way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 11:21:24 GMT -5
Funny you should mention that. I have no idea how this guy did this. By all accounts, it should be literally impossible. It's all explained in the comments and annotations. It involves grinding for extra lives early on, so you have a huge stockpile to fall back on. Still really, really hard though. |
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