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Post by GamerL on Sept 15, 2015 4:55:22 GMT -5
Suddenly I'm reminded of this.
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Post by GamerL on Sept 15, 2015 6:27:08 GMT -5
So coincidentally I make this thread only to have a new game in the series get announced all of a sudden, good timing on my part!
Except the new game is fucking garbage, holy shit, get this, it's an online competitive multiplayer shooter, Resident Evil has devolved to the point where it's not even close to being survival horror anymore.
Now the only silver lining to this cloud is maybe this game has been in the pipeline for a while, well before the HD REmake taught Capcom that people still care about classic RE, so hopefully this is not indicative of the series' future with the RE2 remake and a potential RE7, but damn, this is still the series' nadir, but maybe things can only go up from here, I mean it can't get any worse can it?
Fucking modern video games man, there's so much bullshit nowadays.
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Post by Garamoth on Sept 15, 2015 6:49:03 GMT -5
Ooooooh me likes the looks of this. I'm probably going to try it! It's got a bunch of nice ideas, like the icepick/climbing pick (with melee counterattacks?), the analog cover and zombies biting your shield and becoming human shields. Anyway, Resident Evil has been action-horror for more than a decade now, it's time to get with the program!
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Post by Chronis on Sept 15, 2015 11:59:15 GMT -5
I don't see the problem with Umbrella Corps. It isn't even carrying the RE name, at least as of now, like ORC did. Besides, they've been trying to get online team based games going since the PS2 era.
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Post by kaoru on Sept 15, 2015 12:19:06 GMT -5
I'm not that well versed in RE, but aren't there multiplayer shooter spinoffs already anyways? Like that one on 3DS and the one that introduced the gay character.
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Post by rainkaimaramon on Sept 15, 2015 12:33:51 GMT -5
Memory warning, memory warning, incoming memory.
I loved RE 2 when it came out, hell before it came out when I read about it in Gamepro. I worked hard around the house doing choirs, rented it, or rather my mom had to rent it because this angry bitch behind the rental counter said I was under seventeen and not allowed to have it. She let eight and seven year olds get Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th movies without a raised brow but me, had to get a parent to sign.
I love the series to death, even Survivor, right up until after RE4. That's when things went sour.
I love half of RE4, the Spanish village and needing to rescue the President's daughter and all that was good. The Wolves freaked me out and those labs were terrifying when fighting regenerators. The rest was pure garbage, those QTEs, the cult thing, the Rambo commandos, those stupid tunnels.
And how the hell did Ada become Black Widow, I remember in RE2 she was just a femme Nikita type with a gun, now she's WONDEEER WOMAAAAN.
A huge problem of how Resident Evil became the bloat sack of crap was many critics would not allow anyone to say it was not good. I remember this comic at the escapist saying, that people get use to shit in their sandwich over time, than demand the shit back and it was wrong because tank controls were old, they were right as they got a comic and willing to stroke Capcom's Dr. Wily.
Me, I saw it like ordering a Vegetable soup with beef chunks and the waiter bringing a large tub of lard flavored ice cream. To follow though I guess RE6 is the KFC failure bowl, taking everything they got and just piling it on.
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Post by GamerL on Sept 15, 2015 12:57:44 GMT -5
Memory warning, memory warning, incoming memory. I loved RE 2 when it came out, hell before it came out when I read about it in Gamepro. I worked hard around the house doing choirs, rented it, or rather my mom had to rent it because this angry bitch behind the rental counter said I was under seventeen and not allowed to have it. She let eight and seven year olds get Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th movies without a raised brow but me, had to get a parent to sign. I love the series to death, even Survivor, right up until after RE4. That's when things went sour. I love half of RE4, the Spanish village and needing to rescue the President's daughter and all that was good. The Wolves freaked me out and those labs were terrifying when fighting regenerators. The rest was pure garbage, those QTEs, the cult thing, the Rambo commandos, those stupid tunnels. And how the hell did Ada become Black Widow, I remember in RE2 she was just a femme Nikita type with a gun, now she's WONDEEER WOMAAAAN. A huge problem of how Resident Evil became the bloat sack of crap was many critics would not allow anyone to say it was not good. I remember this comic at the escapist saying, that people get use to shit in their sandwich over time, than demand the shit back and it was wrong because tank controls were old, they were right as they got a comic and willing to stroke Capcom's Dr. Wily. Me, I saw it like ordering a Vegetable soup with beef chunks and the waiter bringing a large tub of lard flavored ice cream. To follow though I guess RE6 is the KFC failure bowl, taking everything they got and just piling it on. This is exactly one of the main reasons why survival horror died, critics hated the genre, never understood it, the vast majority of survival horror games if they got good reviews at all were usually only about decent ones (like a 7 or 8 out of 10 or whatever), most of the time they got mediocre scores and if it was a flawed but interesting game like Rule of Rose it got flat out bad reviews. And even if a survival horror game got good reviews there were always the obligatory complaints about the "bad combat" and "frustrating controls", critics just couldn't grasp the concept of why these games were different, of why you couldn't just kill any enemies you encountered with ease, well sure enough RE4 came along and gave them all what they wanted and they ate it up with a spoon. As much as I personally loved survival horror gamers as a whole didn't deserve the genre, they deserve generic garbage like Umbrella Corps because the majority of them are fucking idiots with shit for taste, they deserve the constant hand holding, "press X to not die" bullshit of most modern games, I hope it makes them happy and judging by The Escapist's comments I guess it does. Fucking pricks.
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Post by rainkaimaramon on Sept 15, 2015 14:34:13 GMT -5
I never forgave Prick Critics for killing the entire Survival Horror type in favor of Gear of War/God of War/CoD crap.
Still mad they never made another Onimusha.
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Post by GamerL on Sept 15, 2015 15:05:47 GMT -5
I never forgave Prick Critics for killing the entire Survival Horror type in favor of Gear of War/God of War/CoD crap. Still mad they never made another Onimusha. Hey, I like God of War (although it, along with RE4 did start the unfortunate trend of QTEs) but I agree with you about Gears and Call of Duty (especially Call of Duty). Survival horror's peak mainstream acclaim was probably Resident Evil 1 and 2, in those days 3D graphics were still so early on the PS1 that the RE games (especially 2) looked so amazing by comparison that people were more willing to put up with it's quirks, but as 3D games became more advanced, especially by the 6th gen, survival horror became more niche and by the 7th gen the party was most definitely over. I do hold out some hope that there may be a survival horror revival in the indie scene someday though, once that crowd gets tired of aping the 16 bit era.
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Post by 90sgamer92 on Sept 15, 2015 16:11:28 GMT -5
Imagine everything from Amnesia the Dark Descent, just done in more traditional survival horror style and with prerendered backgrounds that are as good as in Pillars of Eternity.
I don't think that survival horror as we knew is going to make a comeback, because puzzle solving was always a big part of the genre. God forbid some one other than From software makes a big budget action game where you actually have to think.
Maybe a System Shock 2 style survival horror might gel better with todays market, as it plays like a FPS. First person indie horror games are popular these days. But then again, none of them have weapon degradation nor a limited inventory space+resource pool mixed with respawning enemies as a primary source of tension (nor complex level design, well thought design and deep RPG systems...)
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Post by Feynman on Sept 15, 2015 19:38:20 GMT -5
"Hey, remember Operation Raccoon City and how everybody hated it? Let's make a sequel to THAT!" Capcom, I have no idea what you're thinking sometimes.
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Post by rainkaimaramon on Sept 15, 2015 20:42:40 GMT -5
You know if you are going full action, yippy kay yah Motherf'er type of thing I wonder why not just add werewolves? The real ones like Dog Soldiers, not the sad sheepeople wannabes from The Order.
Seriously werewolves are under represented in post-2000 Video Games.
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Post by X-pert74 on Sept 17, 2015 20:02:30 GMT -5
There should be a Resident Evil game set in a small forgotten town in the U.S., whose residents have been infected with a virus that inexplicably causes them to dress like Revolutionary War reenactors and hunt down the main character with muskets
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Post by rainkaimaramon on Sept 17, 2015 20:44:10 GMT -5
There should be a Resident Evil game set in a small forgotten town in the U.S., whose residents have been infected with a virus that inexplicably causes them to dress like Revolutionary War reenactors and hunt down the main character with muskets Yes, Yes! And we'll get Alan Davis to design the characters too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 20:47:21 GMT -5
I actually really enjoyed RE:ORC. Have to agree that it didn't really strike a chord with the general public, though. Not sure what Capcom's thinking here.
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