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Post by sotenga on Dec 7, 2015 23:52:09 GMT -5
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Post by kaoru on Dec 8, 2015 4:40:32 GMT -5
I think I'll actually join this one this weekend. Who knows, maybe it's the first Dragon Slayer I'll like  Btw, for the people that want to get fancy, the MSX version seems to be fantranslated, too. Though I can't imagine the game using much japanese text to begin with. |
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Post by Allie on Dec 8, 2015 7:33:25 GMT -5
Much like God Hand, this is just one of those games that I don't "get".
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Post by Scylla on Dec 8, 2015 10:56:35 GMT -5
Welp, enjoy suffering, guys, haha. This is one game I don't plan on ever replaying again. But I'll be watching from the sidelines to see if completing the mother's and father's sections destroys everybody's will to live like it did mine, haha.
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Post by Neo Rasa on Dec 8, 2015 12:29:38 GMT -5
This game and its soundtrack are too good.
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Dec 8, 2015 15:14:50 GMT -5
I've got an IRL copy in storage, I can't remember if there's a map or anything special in the package - anyone know? If so, I'll go get it and scan it.
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Post by zerker on Dec 8, 2015 17:02:14 GMT -5
Though viewing the map ahead of time kinda goes against the spirit of GC9x  Despite having played the game once before, I am actually doing a new map for this playthrough. I'll scan and upload this periodically to help people out. For those doing their own maps, note the game world is 4 x 16 rooms in size, and each room is 4-5 times wider than it is tall. My recommended process is to only mark important boundaries between rooms and inaccessible subsections of rooms to reduce how much you actually need to write down. Here is a text-only transcription of the manual: www.world-of-nintendo.com/manuals/nes/legacy_of_the_wizard.shtmlAnd here is a PDF: www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.1711Also, for those unfamiliar with the game... start as Pochi (the pet). And I also leave you with this:  |
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Post by moran on Dec 8, 2015 18:54:51 GMT -5
Nice. I've got a real copy I've been meaning to play for years. Just gotta dig it and my nes out.
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Post by Allie on Dec 9, 2015 16:05:28 GMT -5
A friend of mine became curious about this game after watching Arino play through it.
I pointed out to him that Arino had his show staff make a map up for him pointing out exactly where everything was and what order to get it all in, and if he were to play it, he'd have none of that.
He became much less interested.
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Dec 9, 2015 16:09:52 GMT -5
A friend of mine became curious about this game after watching Arino play through it. I pointed out to him that Arino had his show staff make a map up for him pointing out exactly where everything was and what order to get it all in, and if he were to play it, he'd have none of that. He became much less interested. I never got around to trying to finish the game, this is going to be a daunting task. |
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Post by Allie on Dec 9, 2015 16:13:51 GMT -5
A friend of mine became curious about this game after watching Arino play through it. I pointed out to him that Arino had his show staff make a map up for him pointing out exactly where everything was and what order to get it all in, and if he were to play it, he'd have none of that. He became much less interested. I never got around to trying to finish the game, this is going to be a daunting task. Yeah, I passed on it when I saw a copy floating around locally for $4 about a month ago. |
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Post by Ike on Dec 9, 2015 17:04:44 GMT -5
I always get stuck in Xemn's area where you have to like... ride the blocks to "fly."
This was one of the first 3 games I had on the NES and my dad once sat on the cartridge. I was convinced that, somehow, he had inadvertently broken something inside the cartridge and made one of the characters invincible (the little dragon thing.) Since I was like four it was kind of an impressive connection for me to have made, even though it was wrong. Good game if you've got the time to devote to it.
edit: that middle image is the exact screen where I get stuck. It is a nightmare.
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Dec 9, 2015 20:45:25 GMT -5
I'll need to go back in as Pochi, I started as Xemn, and then went in as the wife (forget her name), and found the glove before I quit last night.
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Post by Ike on Dec 9, 2015 21:05:20 GMT -5
Pochi's section is pretty straightforward and you can sorta brute force the boss by sticking to it like glue and unloading. Pochi's attack is so rapid fire that the boss will probably die before you do.
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Post by Scylla on Dec 10, 2015 10:19:21 GMT -5
The funny thing is that, even if you have a map and know exactly what to do, the game it's still a pain in the ass. Especially because Xemn's block-moving controls suuuuuuck.
If I remember correctly, the game handles bosses in a weird way. Like they're not assigned by area, but always appear in a set order. But some characters are better against certain bosses than others, and certain areas can only be cleared by certain characters (meaning you have to use that character to clear whatever boss you get for the area), so it's possible to kind of screw yourself. I believe I went in the order of Pochi, Lyll, Xemn, and Meyna, but I have no idea if that order is ideal (I know I had a hell of a time against at least one boss). All I can say is that I did manage to beat the game that way at least.
Also you really, really, really don't want to lose on a boss, otherwise you'll have to do the entire area again (which can take over an hour, even with knowing exactly what to do, depending on the area). The game would've significantly benefited from having no bosses outside of the final boss, but I guess in that era, they probably felt a boss at the end of each area was a necessity.
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