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Post by phediuk on Nov 18, 2018 1:53:33 GMT -5
Alright, I have finally completely updated the OP.
Good job everyone.
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Post by phediuk on Nov 18, 2018 14:30:07 GMT -5
Okay, so I've organized each part of the OP so that it goes by chronological order of the clone games (not the games being cloned.)
This is looking like a mighty good list now. Thanks for the help everyone.
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Post by phediuk on Nov 19, 2018 13:10:40 GMT -5
I found a new oldest example:
Rally-X (VIC-20/C64) > Radar Rat Race.
It's literally Rally-X with the cars changed to rats.
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Post by condroid on Nov 19, 2018 15:37:40 GMT -5
I found a new oldest example: Rally-X (VIC-20/C64) > Radar Rat Race. It's literally Rally-X with the cars changed to rats. I think that's actually the same game. HAL/Commodore just didn't have the publishing rights for Namco's arcade ports outside of Japan. They did the same with the official VIC-20 Pac-Man port, which was released as Jelly Monsters in the US and Galaxian/Star Battle is another such case.
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Post by phediuk on Nov 19, 2018 16:39:26 GMT -5
I found a new oldest example: Rally-X (VIC-20/C64) > Radar Rat Race. It's literally Rally-X with the cars changed to rats. I think that's actually the same game. HAL/Commodore just didn't have the publishing rights for Namco's arcade ports outside of Japan. They did the same with the official VIC-20 Pac-Man port, which was released as Jelly Monsters in the US and Galaxian/Star Battle is another such case. Nice.
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Post by kingmike on Nov 20, 2018 19:34:11 GMT -5
I heard Atari had exclusive US rights to Namco's games in the '80s, which would explain name changes.
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Post by phediuk on Nov 22, 2018 1:10:19 GMT -5
Microprose Soccer > Sensible Soccer
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Post by Bumpyroad on Feb 13, 2019 14:34:24 GMT -5
Burnout > Dangerous Driving
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Post by phediuk on Feb 22, 2019 0:23:37 GMT -5
Elvira: Mistress of the Dark > Waxworks
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Post by Owlman on Feb 22, 2019 5:29:19 GMT -5
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night > Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
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Post by phediuk on May 19, 2019 0:06:48 GMT -5
Grand Knights History > Grand Kingdom
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Post by psygnosis8 on May 20, 2019 9:35:29 GMT -5
So can someone explain the Zanac—> Aleste transition? I though zanac was published by compile on the MSX. Does Pony Canyon own the rights to Zanac or something?
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Post by phediuk on May 20, 2019 16:34:43 GMT -5
So can someone explain the Zanac—> Aleste transition? I though zanac was published by compile on the MSX. Does Pony Canyon own the rights to Zanac or something?
HG101's article on Power Strike / Aleste says this:
This appears to be accurate, but I'm not sure where Zanac x Zanac fits into this, as that appears to be self-published by Compile. Did they buy the rights back from Pony Canyon at some point?
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Post by phediuk on May 20, 2019 16:43:55 GMT -5
Oh, and Aleste > Sorcer Striker belongs here. Granted that at least has a different theme from the Aleste games (i.e. medieval-punk rather than straight sci-fi) so that's something.
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Post by toei on May 21, 2019 13:13:06 GMT -5
Oh, and Aleste > Sorcer Striker belongs here. Granted that at least has a different theme from the Aleste games (i.e. medieval-punk rather than straight sci-fi) so that's something. Is the criteria just that former Compile staff may have involved in making another vertical shooter at another company? If so, you might as well include the five vertical shooters Sting developed in its early years (not counting the Truxton port), since the company was largely made up of former Compile staff. Psycho Chaser, Override, Last Battalion, God Panic and Flying Hero. Override and Last Battalion are actually pretty reminiscent of an Aleste game. Actually Last Battalion is kind of a remake of Override, or at least a wildly different port, but it was self-published by Sting while Override was published by Data East. They both came out the same year, too.
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