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Post by wyrdwad on Feb 16, 2018 14:09:51 GMT -5
Everquest > Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Ah, this reminds me: Dark Age of Camelot --> Camelot Unchained I used to work for Mythic, and started as an in-game customer support rep for Dark Age of Camelot (I was CSR Glenlin, if anyone ever had any interactions with CSRs in that game!), so I happen to know... really, the majority of people involved in the development of Camelot Unchained. And it really does sound like it's basically Dark Age of Camelot 2, in everything but name. -Tom
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Post by phediuk on Feb 17, 2018 12:34:58 GMT -5
Thundercats > Beyond the Ice Palace
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Post by phediuk on Feb 17, 2018 19:32:29 GMT -5
Top Spin > Tennis World Tour
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Post by phediuk on Feb 18, 2018 1:37:26 GMT -5
Supreme Commander > Planetary Annihilation
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Post by JoeQ on Feb 18, 2018 7:32:15 GMT -5
And before that, Total Annihilation -> Supreme Commander.
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Post by phediuk on Feb 19, 2018 0:22:45 GMT -5
Final Fantasy > Zodiac: Orcanon Odyssey
oh, and of course,
Final Fantasy > Lost Odyssey
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Post by derboo on Feb 19, 2018 11:23:23 GMT -5
Some of these should at least go with an asterisk...
Wasteland > Fallout
- This wasn't a case of an original creator losing rights to anything. According to several interviews with the people involved (mostly on Matt Chat), this was new people that weren't involved with the original Wasteland at all, developing a prototype at the same studio and because of the thematic similarity it was considered to become a Wasteland game in the early stages, then at some point the studio just decided that it was becoming very much its own thing and it wouldn't be appropriate to use the Wasteland name.
Demon's Souls > Dark Souls
- I figured From Software could have kept making Demon's Souls games for Sony if they wanted, but turned it into a franchise of their own in order to have control and go multiplatform? There's actually an interesting reverse case of this of Terminal Reality making BloodRayne as a kind of parallel universe to Nocturne to preserve the rights to their earlier IP (and ended up never doing anything with it until the studio's demise).
Silent Hill > Siren Ambermoon > Albion
- These (and possibly more) I feel stretch the definition quite a bit, as they're just games in the same genre and not even all that similar...
Double Dragon > Rage of the Dragons
- No original Double Dragon creators were actually involved with this, IIRC?
Spirit of Adventure > Realms of Arkania
- I'm not sure this is an example of Attic losing the rights, at least probably not the main reason. The Attic people mentioned getting screwed over by their former publisher, but never disclosed in what way exactly? At any rate the impetus to make a The Dark Eye game seems to have come from opportunity rather than necessity.
Related to that, do you want to count games where the original was never finished? Larian started developing an original RPG, then tied it in with the The Dark Eye license in cooperation with Attic, and when that was canceled they developed the similar (but still mostly distinct Divine Divinity)
There's also the free-to-play browser RPG Drakensang online, which technically keeps the name of the previous games, but not the TDA license (and thus actually takes place in a different world).
Several people involved with the Battle Isle games ended up making quite similar games later - including Rim: Battle Planets, the handheld versions of Tom Clancy's Endwar, and UFO Online: Fight for Earth (which was more like a clone of the kinda-spin-off Incubation). Then there was that failed Battle Isle Kickstarter, which had the trademark for the name, but not much else elements identified with the series (aside from also being a turn-based military battle sim).
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Post by dsparil on Feb 19, 2018 13:16:03 GMT -5
Some of these should at least go with an asterisk... Wasteland > Fallout This is exactly #1. EA owned the rights to Wasteland and the original developer created a spiritual successor. Sure, there's a 14 year gap, but Fargo's name is on both even if he didn't work on Fallout directly.
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Post by phediuk on Feb 20, 2018 4:29:58 GMT -5
Silkworm (Amiga ver.) > SWIV
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Post by toei on Feb 20, 2018 5:16:08 GMT -5
Some of these should at least go with an asterisk... Wasteland > Fallout This is exactly #1. EA owned the rights to Wasteland and the original developer created a spiritual successor. Sure, there's a 14 year gap, but Fargo's name is on both even if he didn't work on Fallout directly. If he didn't work on it directly, he's not the creator in any sense.
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Post by dsparil on Feb 20, 2018 8:15:29 GMT -5
This is exactly #1. EA owned the rights to Wasteland and the original developer created a spiritual successor. Sure, there's a 14 year gap, but Fargo's name is on both even if he didn't work on Fallout directly. If he didn't work on it directly, he's not the creator in any sense. There's nothing that says that the "creator" has to be actual person and not the developer as a company. Regardless, Fallout literally opens with the text "BRIAN FARGO PRESENTS". In the intervening time, he did become busy with the business of the company—it was 9 years because apparently my brain can't handle the concept of new Apple II games in '88 and misread the 8 as a 3—but it's not like he was totally uninvolved.
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Post by phediuk on Feb 20, 2018 13:56:40 GMT -5
Trolls (Amiga) > Oscar
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Post by phediuk on Feb 20, 2018 14:03:54 GMT -5
UN Squadron > Carrier Air Wing
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Post by JoeQ on Feb 20, 2018 14:54:59 GMT -5
Can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet:
Golden Eye 007 -> Perfect Dark
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Post by phediuk on Feb 23, 2018 0:05:30 GMT -5
Eradicator > Slave Zero
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