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Post by moran on Aug 11, 2018 17:14:33 GMT -5
Well, I’ll have to check out E.V.O then
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Aug 11, 2018 22:19:51 GMT -5
All threads are now E.V.O. threads.
Seriously though, it is a very interesting game. I didn't *love* it, it had some major issues, but it's definitely something I think SNES enthusiasts should play at least once.
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Post by toei on Aug 11, 2018 23:16:38 GMT -5
All threads are now E.V.O. threads. Seriously though, it is a very interesting game. I didn't *love* it, it had some major issues, but it's definitely something I think SNES enthusiasts should play at least once. For me it was always one of those interesting games that I could never get into, like Ecco the Dolphin.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Aug 12, 2018 4:38:56 GMT -5
(tl;dr - most people pirate shit because they have no other way of acquiring a product in an affordable, accessible, and adequate manner) I think most people pirate games because they are just are too cheap to pay for old stuff because it's old. I bet most downloads come from people who just lazily slap SMB or Pokémon GS on an emulator on their phone or something and play it for ten minutes before moving on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 7:54:45 GMT -5
EVO passed me over in the UK - it was reviewed in a few magazines but never made it to our shores. I always found it quite difficult when I played it via emulation - some of the bosses are damn cheap and I didn't realise there was a way to exploit your health with the growing of horns etc. There is a lot to love about the game however - I'd no idea you could end up in the bird palace when I played for instance, nor did I have any idea of their being a way to evolve into a human! I spent the better part of the game as an odd dinosaur in the end.
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Post by 1983parrothead on Aug 14, 2018 12:03:10 GMT -5
This and other similar take downs remind me of when CBS or Viacom were one of the first who had words with YouTube or Google about uploading copyright video footage and wanted them offline. However, the Downfall film used as an Internet meme lead to this story: Other than video games and films, animes and even some religious or variety TV shows get taken down as well, even with just a screenshot and no audio or when taken some videos on one channel while forgetting others till later. One example is the Hissu Amoto San meme mostly found on NicoNico, but some on YouTube, DailyMotion, etc., which Shiano Art can detect them easily and remove them in a flash. The Hissu Amoto San meme was also the trigger of four more memes: Kirby's Gourmet Race Remixes, RED_ZONE, Bloomin' X and Nuclear Fusion. Here is its entry on Know Your Meme: knowyourmeme.com/memes/hissu-amoto-san-airmotoSome other similar stories in recent or a few further years back I can think of are MegaUpload taken down, but resurrected as Mega in New Zealand, and still going on today, the Kodi app.
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Post by toei on Aug 16, 2018 10:24:23 GMT -5
Well, The Iso Zone is now dead, too. No longer offering downloads (they "have plans", but let's be real, without emulation all that's left is a crappy forum). The best non-torrent sources for ROMs are now gone. There are plenty of titles you could only find there, none of which will ever get re-releases. Just days ago some people were acting like emuparadise was just one site and nothing was going on. I know more sites will rise eventually, but it's looking pretty bad right now. Their going-away messages includes wishful thinking about setting up fully legal, Spotify-type services for emulation. Wish that would happen (though it would suck if it were all streaming), but the demand for emulation outside of a few famous retro titles isn't anywhere as high as it was for music in general, so I'm not convinced there's a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 11:33:06 GMT -5
Holy shit, ISO Zone is gone, too???
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Post by Bumpyroad on Aug 16, 2018 11:58:49 GMT -5
Life's good!
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Post by Snake on Aug 16, 2018 13:01:08 GMT -5
Well, I’ll have to check out E.V.O then It's worth checking out at least once. The control mechanics make it more of an old-school, hardcore action gamer's game though. The premise of eating other life for experience, and following the evolution of the planet is a cool concept that worked for me. The music is signature Koichi Sugiyama, with a bit of up tempo to match the setting of an action RPG. Half the time, you could close your eyes and imagine many of music tracks and 5 second fanfares would fit right in a Dragon Quest game. Evolving into a human towards then end can easily be glossed over, since there is a certain combination of features you need to choose to go from a small mammal, to a simian, to neanderthal, up to human. E.V.O. was certainly a hardcore niche game. No one I knew personally in junior high could name it, even though they had an SNES. It's a wonder Enix in America managed to publish a bunch of Quintet and Produce games. But even then, I believe Nintendo published Illusion of Gaia here in the US, and we never got Terranigma/Tenchi Sozo. Enix didn't fare so well in the US, but Square had some momentum, even though there was gang of stuff we never got! Romancing Sagas, Live-A-Live, Bahamut Lagoon, Front Mission, Rudra no Hihou, and Treasure Hunter G. There would be talks of releasing Dragon Warrior V in the quarterly newletters from Enix, and how translation was progressing. And then... poof. Vaporware. How long did it take for Dragon Quest to become a profitable franchise in the US? Perhaps not until after Square and Enix merged.
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Post by Allie on Aug 16, 2018 14:01:03 GMT -5
Well, The Iso Zone is now dead, too. No longer offering downloads (they "have plans", but let's be real, without emulation all that's left is a crappy forum). The best non-torrent sources for ROMs are now gone. There are plenty of titles you could only find there, none of which will ever get re-releases. Just days ago some people were acting like emuparadise was just one site and nothing was going on. I know more sites will rise eventually, but it's looking pretty bad right now. Their going-away messages includes wishful thinking about setting up fully legal, Spotify-type services for emulation. Wish that would happen (though it would suck if it were all streaming), but the demand for emulation outside of a few famous retro titles isn't anywhere as high as it was for music in general, so I'm not convinced there's a chance. It's "Dead". All the file links have been moved to its successor, Retrozone.
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Post by toei on Aug 16, 2018 14:14:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I found out some time later. I hope this lasts.
Is it really 100%, or just the more popular stuff?
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Post by dsparil on Aug 16, 2018 17:41:47 GMT -5
Haven't really been following this so a few things:
1. The copyright term in the US is way too long. Disney gets a lot of blame here, but the do-nothing estates of the successful are equally to blame. For a particularly gross example, while MLK Jr's wife was very interested in simply spreading his message, his children are only interested in monetizing it. Some estates are pushing for literally infinite terms.
That being said, creators do have rights and what they do is their prerogative. Shortening the copyright term isn't a panacea. A major issue with TV shows reissues for instance can simply be that no one knows who owns the rights anymore. Do something and wait to see who sues isn't a viable strategy. NOLF2 is a similar game example. Some kind of principle similar to trademark abandonment that applies to copyright would go a long way.
2. FFIII US was deemed a failure by Square according to Sakaguchi. The cart was significantly above standard price too. FFI sold very well in the US, 700k, but FFIV sold less than half that (340k for SNES plus PSX). FFVII sold millions in the US. SNES does have a heap of RPGs but it was still relatively niche.
3. EVO is great but be prepared for grinding. It opens up a lot more towards the end though.
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Post by moran on Aug 16, 2018 18:12:15 GMT -5
Romsmania is still up and running as of a few minutes ago.
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Post by GamerL on Aug 16, 2018 19:13:20 GMT -5
Pretty sad to be living through the rompocalypse FFVII sold millions in the US. That's gotta be one of the unlikeliest success stories in gaming history. I think it just comes down to the fact that by 1997 interest in Japanese culture was really starting to take off in the US and FF7 rode that wave.
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