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Post by edmonddantes on Feb 21, 2019 19:45:54 GMT -5
sports.yahoo.com/nine-year-old-girl-calls-mlb-chuck-e-cheese-games-degrading-softball-taunt-032010127.htmlSo basically this girl played a baseball arcade game, did badly and got a taunt saying "well, there's always softball." It happens this girl is a huge fan of softball and was offended by this comment... and because we live in the age of pampered babies, she's taking the MLB, the Chuck E. Cheese restaurant this game was at, and the makers of the game to task. What really gets me is people are caving to her instead of telling her to grow up. I mean, seriously? Kid, lots of us took this kind of "abuse" our entire lives. Why the hell are YOU special? Seriously, some people...
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Post by Discoalucard on Feb 21, 2019 22:02:17 GMT -5
I mean, is it that bad? A girl thought a game said something dumb, wrote the manufactuer and told them how she felt, and they were like "yeah, okay, that actually is kind of dumb, we will try to make this product better".
Honestly the framing of these type of everyday complaints as people being "offended" is much, much worse.
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Post by edmonddantes on Feb 21, 2019 22:14:34 GMT -5
I mean, at the risk of coming off as envious, but its somehow a little offensive to me that I've had much worse insults lobbed my way over even more minor trash and been expected to (or explicitly told to) just suck it up because complaining somehow makes me a worse person. Not just as an adult but even as a kid. (Heck, during my school days being on the receiving end of actual physical violence and telling authorities would also usually get "quit being such a whiner")
Expecting sympathy because someone insulted a game you like? That's something gamers don't even expect today. In fact over-reacting to criticism is usually grounds for mockery (Jim Sterling knows all about that). I'm not sure why this case is different.
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Feb 21, 2019 23:20:15 GMT -5
We want things to be better than when we were kids, not the same as.
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Post by kaoru on Feb 22, 2019 2:08:23 GMT -5
Honestly the framing of these type of everyday complaints as people being "offended" is much, much worse. Qft
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Post by edmonddantes on Feb 23, 2019 15:03:59 GMT -5
We want things to be better than when we were kids, not the same as. Except for one thing... often when you grow up you find out things that sucked as a kid actually had a good reason for it. Besides which, none of us are freaking God (though I'm working on it). The kind of trash-talking this girl complained about in a video game is something real athletes do and which she is gonna hear all the time (and probably already does) in school. Is she gonna write letters to to principals, parents, etc of everyone who ever makes a bad comment about softball? If she ever goes to a real baseball game and happens to hear a real baseball player say softball is the lesser game, is she gonna take it up with his manager? At some point, she's gonna run into someone who will say "Oh god, grow a thicker skin, kiddo." And it'll be worse for her if up until that point she's had a whole lifetime of being catered to. Or it could result in her becoming the kind of entitled child that videos like this one talk about. ... Also, let me turn the situation on its head. We just had an "games that get dissed but you like them" topic. Do you think any of us would be justified in writing to game magazines, website owners, etc. to get negative opinions changed? Moreover, do you think any of us would get catered to? It just boggles me that this is somehow being held up as empowerment when you could so easily see this same kid as a spoiled brat who for some reason everyone is catering to.
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Post by toei on Feb 23, 2019 16:02:32 GMT -5
I don't think there was anything wrong with the line "there's always softball". Softball has a reputation for being an easier variant of baseball, not a major league sports, and this is a play on that. This may not actually be true - I have no idea. But no one forced them to remove that line.
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Post by Snake on Feb 23, 2019 18:20:13 GMT -5
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, they should teach kids how to take an insult.
Learn some verbal jousting, trash talking, and diffusing of a situation. In addition to other beneficial life skills.
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Post by Discoalucard on Feb 23, 2019 21:26:32 GMT -5
Also important to note - softball is primarily a woman's sport, so an alternate interpretation of that message would have been "you throw like a girl". I'm sure I've mentioned this before, they should teach kids how to take an insult. Alternatively, teach kids not to be assholes.
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Post by surnshurn on Feb 23, 2019 22:14:45 GMT -5
In the lens of developmental psychology - it's not wise to teach a young child that their emotion is justification for social escalation - it leads to emotional imbalance and antisocial behavior, later in life.
In my opinion of this specific situation, it should have been taken to the general manager of the restaurant and left there; but I know that the parents are expected a fat settlement from AMLB in order to prevent being crucified by the news media.
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Post by Snake on Feb 25, 2019 11:52:38 GMT -5
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, they should teach kids how to take an insult. Alternatively, teach kids not to be assholes. Right? That should also be a given: A manners and etiquette class. Emily Post should be a required reading curriculum. Also, empathy and social dynamics. Financial Education. Also learn to take a punch (self-defense). Hell, even MariKon's Tidying Up would be very beneficial for kids to learn. The hardest thing is dealing with kids from broken and dysfunctional homes. The parents, if they're still together (considering nearly 50% of marriages end in divorce), work too hard to put food on the table. If there are no grandparents or other extended family to help out, the kids are basically on their own. Worst still if kids are spoiled rotten and are able to get away with anything, if the parents do not know how to parent and set boundaries. I hear it from clients all the time, who are school teachers. If the kids don't respect the parents, they might not always respect the teacher. It becomes even harder for the teacher to hold the class together and teach something of value in that situation. In which, case, there's no quick fix for the unruly assholes of the future. There will always be some form of asshole, or disaster, whether it be man-made or natural. The next best thing in the mean time, is it temper and equip kids with life skills and abilities to diffuse and cope with such situations. There's no need to protect the weak, if they can grow into someone strong and self-sufficient.
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Post by surnshurn on Feb 27, 2019 2:22:29 GMT -5
You guys are talking about the assholes of the future, but what about the assholes of the present?
somebody can sue you into the ground for saying something bad about them, even if you're justified. that's an asshole move, and it's something that's been happening since the early '80s.
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Post by Weasel on Feb 27, 2019 10:52:13 GMT -5
What a lot of these posts are (seemingly?) not taking into account is the fact that she's nine. Nine-year-olds are very much still in the process of coming to grips with the world, and getting upset about what a game told her is completely understandable.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Feb 27, 2019 11:58:01 GMT -5
What a lot of these posts are (seemingly?) not taking into account is the fact that she's nine. Nine-year-olds are very much still in the process of coming to grips with the world, and getting upset about what a game told her is completely understandable. Not only that, but apparentely what this 9-y/o did is so uncalled for in the eyes of the OP that it deserves an entire thread to complain about. I seriously can't understand having such a strong negative reaction to a little kid who didn't like taking crap from a video game.
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Post by edmonddantes on Feb 27, 2019 21:54:43 GMT -5
I love how people are like "dude, she's nine" but are ignoring the real problem that this somehow got attention and was considered newsworthy by a major news service PLUS the guys who made the game said they were gonna alter it to bow to this kid's demands.
"Kid cries about game" happens every day, but its worrying that now its something that has to be dealt with at higher levels of management.
(Besides, my own nine-year-old niece has heard things like this and she takes them in stride when they come from a silly computer game... from real people, not so much).
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