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Post by kaoru on Feb 28, 2019 2:42:39 GMT -5
What a lot of these posts are (seemingly?) not taking into account is the fact that she's nine. Nine-year-olds are very much still in the process of coming to grips with the world, and getting upset about what a game told her is completely understandable. Not only that, but apparentely what this 9-y/o did is so uncalled for in the eyes of the OP that it deserves an entire thread to complain about. I seriously can't understand having such a strong negative reaction to a little kid who didn't like taking crap from a video game. If there's anything good about this thread at all, it's the unintentional irony of it being called "talk about whiny".
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Feb 28, 2019 5:42:01 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly. I love how people are like "dude, she's nine" but are ignoring the real problem that this somehow got attention and was considered newsworthy by a major news service PLUS the guys who made the game said they were gonna alter it to bow to this kid's demands."Kid cries about game" happens every day, but its worrying that now its something that has to be dealt with at higher levels of management. (Besides, my own nine-year-old niece has heard things like this and she takes them in stride when they come from a silly computer game... from real people, not so much). Why is it worrying? Why is it a "problem"? All that happened here was that a kid didn't like that a game (that's meant for kids, to boot) called people who play softball pussies. And the company manufacturing the game agreed with her. You're pretending this girl got all triggered and felt entitled, whereas she probably wouldn't even have written anyone if it weren't for her parents and her uncle. And again, you're a grown-ass adult making a thread to bitch about a 9 y/o.
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Post by jackcaeylin on Feb 28, 2019 9:51:24 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with whiny people. The point of being whiny is to feel relaxed. With whining, you are releasing your anger. I mean, isn't this the point of Social Media or gaming/book/porn/america/fishing/nail art/sport/make up/movie review websites etc?
The perfect example is the post of Son of suzy Creamcheese. He is so angry, that he starts to be whiney about someones whining, thus he feel free, because it was something in his mind and he doesn't go personal.
My question about certain whinings are the longterm whinings. As said, you can feel free, but on the longterm, I don't know what kind of things people are trying to achieve with it. This is not the case in this thread, because it is fairly obvious and only related into specifics. East European or humour of Australia can be kinda offensive and it can be whiny to a certain degree, which is kinda its purpose, but that would another reasoning/topic.
I mean, it is better to be whiny, instead of being quiet and then releasing your anger in an aggressive way. I mean, lots of these "Twitch rage streams" are about people that start to destroy stuff and then, they start to be whiny. They would not destroy their stuff, if they would be whiny in the first place, thus they would never reach to the moment of "rage".
To sum up: The point of whiny is to feel free/to chill. It doesn't need to have a purpose. You are just calming down. I mean, you won't get the prize of Mr/Ms Politeness, but you won't dwell about it and you will move on.
Yours sincerely
Jack Caeylin
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Post by Weasel on Feb 28, 2019 11:50:00 GMT -5
I love how people are like "dude, she's nine" but are ignoring the real problem that this somehow got attention and was considered newsworthy by a major news service PLUS the guys who made the game said they were gonna alter it to bow to this kid's demands."Kid cries about game" happens every day, but its worrying that now its something that has to be dealt with at higher levels of management. (Besides, my own nine-year-old niece has heard things like this and she takes them in stride when they come from a silly computer game... from real people, not so much). Then it's the news' fault, not the kid's. Headline-chasing has been a problem since Time Immemorial (or at least, since the invention of the news). And the game's being changed? Okay, that's fine. I don't see why a line about softball is so Absolutely Vital to the game that one would be upset about it going.
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Post by ResidentTsundere on Mar 3, 2019 16:11:18 GMT -5
Clickbait.
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Post by edmonddantes on Mar 3, 2019 23:46:23 GMT -5
It's worrying for a number of reasons. First of all there has been an increasing trend since at least the 200Xs of people who feel they deserve to have their way... and a part of what causes that is these people were catered to as a chilluns and thus expect it to continue into adulthood.
Secondly yeah, I'm concerned about the nanny state. Like Penn and Teller once said, "you don't have the right to never be offended." The whole point of free speech is to protect people who might make offensive statements.
What would this girl have done if she had lost Gradius II and gotten the "you need more practice" jibe, I wonder?
It's honestly kind of lame in general. I mean my own niece (also 9yo) just watched Disney's Snow White, and when she got to the part where Grumpy says "women are all crazy" she just laughed at the audacity and moved on... not wrote a letter to Disney expressing concern about a sexist dwarf in a movie from the 1930s.
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Mar 4, 2019 0:43:19 GMT -5
Um. Brotastic, free speech also protects the 9yo girl.
You seem offended.
I'll be the first one to tell you that the government has no business telling people what they can and can't say on their own property or to a large degree on public land.
But that isn't even remotely related to this.
This is a girl saying what she feels, and people agreeing with her. That is the *definition* of free speech.
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Post by kaoru on Mar 4, 2019 9:36:29 GMT -5
What would this girl have done if she had lost Gradius II and gotten the "you need more practice" jibe, I wonder? Probably nothing? She's playing softball in a team for five years. So having to practice to get better at something is most likely a very reasonable concept to her. Not sure why you keep bringing up your niece. Different people react differently to things, what a shocker. Your niece doesn't take crap by laughing it off, this girl doesn't take crap by standing up for herself (or her hobby). Good for the both of them.
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Post by edmonddantes on Mar 4, 2019 10:07:22 GMT -5
]Not sure why you keep bringing up your niece. Because I don't have kids of my own so I'll instead be proud of my sister's kids
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Post by windfisch on Mar 9, 2019 8:23:00 GMT -5
]Not sure why you keep bringing up your niece. Because I don't have kids of my own so I'll instead be proud of my sister's kids I'm sure you are. But wouldn't you be equally proud of your niece if it was, hypothetically speaking, her acting like the girl in that article?
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Post by edmonddantes on Mar 10, 2019 9:41:28 GMT -5
I think if I were around at the time and my niece thought a game said something offensive, I'd probably say something like "yeah, that guy's a moron" and that would be the end of it--that we both think some video game announcer is a moron. If she wanted to go so far as to lodge complaints, I would definitely try to explain to her that that's going too far and that you can't police every single offensive thing that crosses your path, and besides, you've only got so many hours in the day, its best to pick battles that are worth fighting... and some nameless announcer in some video game is not such a battle.
Now, if it was a store employee, I would let her give him a glare or say "Hey, I'm in a softball league!" and let him get embarrassed, but that's probably as far as I'd let it get. If anyone suggested complaining to a manager, I would shoot that down immediately.
It's kind of a constant fight, because everyone around me is obsessed with retribution. Like my mom is constantly saying she's gonna sue people on the road for pulling out in front of her and I'm always like "Oh, okay, so if that guy in that car had kids and they were dependent on him to keep them fed, you'd gladly let them lose their money, their house, everything, just because you were mildly inconvenienced?" (To be fair my mom says this more as an angry epitheth than a serious threat nowadays, but that's only because I had to talk her down from it several times... in my mind, lawsuits are worse than murder unless the person targeted is a billionaire, since yeah, they can result in situations where the guilty is not just overly punished, but people connected to them who had nothing to do with the offense get punished too. But now I'm rambling).
Offense should only be met with an appropriate response, and the OP wasn't it, just saying.
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Post by kaoru on Mar 10, 2019 10:17:02 GMT -5
I dunno, responding to a clerk with "I'm in a softball team. What you said was not cool" and telling the licenser of that game "I'm in a softball team. What your game said was not cool" does not sound that wildly different to me. And they seemed to think the same, since they agreed with her. Nowhere does it state that she made a great stink or threatened legal action or anything.
But I also don't think lawsuits are worse than murder, so what do I know.
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Post by edmonddantes on Mar 10, 2019 11:26:42 GMT -5
But I also don't think lawsuits are worse than murder, so what do I know. I'm surprised more people don't see it this way, actually. Consider your own situation. Now, I'm having to guess here, but... lets say you own at least an apartment which you pay rent on, have to buy your own food, gas for the car, etc... and you make minimum wage working full-time. It's your first paycheck of the month and like always, you need to make it last. Suddenly you accidentally rear-end someone (or worse, they rig the situation--its all too easy for someone to see you coming and pull out in front of you and in some counties, whoever hits from the rear is always considered at fault) and they decide to press charges. Woops, there goes your paycheck, and likely any savings you have. So how you gonna pay that rent (not to mention insurance bills, buy food, any other assorted crap that comes up) now? Oh you might quickly build money selling crap on ebay (crapshoot as that is), but... do you really want to lose things important to you over a silly accident? And even then it may not be enough. So now you're retreating back to your parents or, if they're dead, are just completely screwed. With no money and no car, what's left? Living on the streets? Yeah, I think I would rather have died in that car accident.
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Post by Weasel on Mar 10, 2019 11:43:07 GMT -5
But I also don't think lawsuits are worse than murder, so what do I know. I'm surprised more people don't see it this way, actually. Consider your own situation. Now, I'm having to guess here, but... lets say you own at least an apartment which you pay rent on, have to buy your own food, gas for the car, etc... and you make minimum wage working full-time. It's your first paycheck of the month and like always, you need to make it last. Suddenly you accidentally rear-end someone (or worse, they rig the situation--its all too easy for someone to see you coming and pull out in front of you and in some counties, whoever hits from the rear is always considered at fault) and they decide to press charges. Woops, there goes your paycheck, and likely any savings you have. So how you gonna pay that rent (not to mention insurance bills, buy food, any other assorted crap that comes up) now? Oh you might quickly build money selling crap on ebay (crapshoot as that is), but... do you really want to lose things important to you over a silly accident? And even then it may not be enough. So now you're retreating back to your parents or, if they're dead, are just completely screwed. With no money and no car, what's left? Living on the streets? Yeah, I think I would rather have died in that car accident. All this in a thread about a story where a 9-year-old was irritated by something a game told her and asked its manufacturer to change it.
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Post by edmonddantes on Mar 10, 2019 11:52:07 GMT -5
That's how you turn out when one of the earliest animated movies you can remember seeing is Watership Down...
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