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Post by kingmike on Apr 5, 2019 11:54:22 GMT -5
Yeah, but it doesn't look like they care about whether the game is good or not. The fact that Haunted Castle was picked doesn't leave me much faith. I hope this is comprehensive re-release that eventually goes over entire series, and not some random "best of" collection (e.g. Atari Vault, which consists of 90% Atari 2600 dump and leaves out titles like Marble Madness). Marble Madness is Atari Games. Atari Games is a separate IP holder than Atari Corp.
WB Games probably holds the Atari Games IPs.
I do recall someone from Midway once stating they could specifically not mix the two when they produced their Atari/Midway/Williams Greatest Hits compilations.
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Post by windfisch on Apr 5, 2019 18:01:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't want GB Adventure when Rebirth remake can be readily available. Legends does have me curious for a playthrough. If only because of the fuss IGA made about its canon eligibility. Rebirth is a completely different game, though. The only things it carries over from the GB games are the projectile whip and like two enemy types.
The Adventure is a fine game, brimming with creativity. It runs a bit slowly, but approaching it with an open mind, one can easily get used to it. If the game ran just slightly faster, so it'd match the speed of Belmont's Revenege (which could be done nowadays), it would easily be the best of the GB trilogy for me.
Legends has some cool moments, but design-wise it's a bit sloppy overall. The whole IGA canon thing seems pretty immature to me, though.
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Post by zerker on Apr 6, 2019 6:06:09 GMT -5
Yeah, but it doesn't look like they care about whether the game is good or not. The fact that Haunted Castle was picked doesn't leave me much faith. I hope this is comprehensive re-release that eventually goes over entire series, and not some random "best of" collection (e.g. Atari Vault, which consists of 90% Atari 2600 dump and leaves out titles like Marble Madness). Marble Madness is Atari Games. Atari Games is a separate IP holder than Atari Corp.
WB Games probably holds the Atari Games IPs.
I do recall someone from Midway once stating they could specifically not mix the two when they produced their Atari/Midway/Williams Greatest Hits compilations.
I was going to say this. The Atari split can indeed be confusing at first glance, but it basically explains why the Atari Vault doesn't have any arcade games after 1983. If you want a compilation with Marble Madness, track down "Midway Arcade Treasures" for PS2/XBOX/GC or "Midway Arcade Originals" for 360/PS3.
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Post by Murphy on Apr 7, 2019 1:59:02 GMT -5
Marble Madness is Atari Games. Atari Games is a separate IP holder than Atari Corp.
WB Games probably holds the Atari Games IPs.
I do recall someone from Midway once stating they could specifically not mix the two when they produced their Atari/Midway/Williams Greatest Hits compilations.
I stand corrected. I gotta grab the older compilations.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Apr 7, 2019 15:58:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't want GB Adventure when Rebirth remake can be readily available. Legends does have me curious for a playthrough. If only because of the fuss IGA made about its canon eligibility. Rebirth is a completely different game, though. The only things it carries over from the GB games are the projectile whip and like two enemy types.
The Adventure is a fine game, brimming with creativity. It runs a bit slowly, but approaching it with an open mind, one can easily get used to it. If the game ran just slightly faster, so it'd match the speed of Belmont's Revenege (which could be done nowadays), it would easily be the best of the GB trilogy for me.
Legends has some cool moments, but design-wise it's a bit sloppy overall. The whole IGA canon thing seems pretty immature to me, though.
I found Adventure GB to be okay. I don't mind the original showing up on the collection I just want Adventure Rebirth because it is no longer for purchase.
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Post by windfisch on Apr 8, 2019 18:27:25 GMT -5
Sure, for the sake of this collection I'd also pick Rebirth instead of The Adventure for being more substantial in terms of length and for being the Classivania swan song, so to speak. And with Belmont's Revenge players already get the most polished GB entry. And since the latter reuses many elements and ideas from its predecessor, having both would feel like a wasted slot, considering all the other great Castlevania games to choose from.
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Post by myloch on Apr 10, 2019 6:17:01 GMT -5
Which version of Haunted Castle? Does it make any difference? That game is terrible!
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Post by Owlman on Apr 10, 2019 10:56:47 GMT -5
Which version of Haunted Castle? Does it make any difference? That game is terrible! It does. The K version is way more difficult than the J version.
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Post by kaoru on Apr 18, 2019 7:35:14 GMT -5
We now know all the Castlevanias in the selection: I-IV, Bloodlines, 1+2 GB and Kid Dracula NES. I mean the MegaDrive one and Kid Dracula are kinda neat, but it's a bit more boring than I hoped. Also a bit sad they didn't complete the GB lineup with the third one and maybe giving people the alternative (and superior) take on Kid Dracula too. link
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Post by dsparil on Apr 18, 2019 8:44:51 GMT -5
It's almost a literal Volume 1. Just the first 8 games excluding computer exclusives, Haunted Castle since it's in a different collection and RoB since it just got rereleased. Very boring, but not terribly surprising I guess. Question is will Vampire Killer get released? I'm guessing no. The X68k game presumably will at some point if this keeps up since there's a PSX version.
Maybe the next steps would be either additional ports of Requiem which crosses off RoB and SotN or a Vol. 2 with those along with Dracula X, maybe Chronicles to cross off the X68k game and Legends. That leaves the two N64 games, 3 GBA games and 3 DS games plus Adventure Rebirth. Vol. 3 with N64+GBA and Vol. 4 with the rest?
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Post by windfisch on Apr 18, 2019 8:59:10 GMT -5
Hmm, seems like it's a bit of a chronological collection after all. So we do get Simon's Quest, which has some significance historically, but it's also not that fun.
One could probably argue that it makes sense to exclude the more obscure platforms like MSX, PCE and X68k (at least for non-Japanese). But not featuring Rondo or Chronicles is a bummer nonetheless, especially because both have been released outside of Japan later on. Having the Famicom Kid Dracula is cool, but the GB game should have been there, too, as it actually was released outside of Japan and fits into the whole release timeline (also GB roms are tiny). Hopefully The Adventure will be slightly tweaked to run more smoothly. It certainly deserves to be played without the original technical limitations.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Apr 18, 2019 9:11:12 GMT -5
Are we getting the Japanese and English versions of the games? If so I am surprised Kid Dracula made the cut. Sure NES Kid Dracula is not in English but both versions have the Spirits of Halloween that Konami edited because they could be mistaken for KKK.
Now I am sad we didn't get the MSX Vampire Killer just for the curiosity factor. I wasn't expecting anything Playstation. Clearly they wanted to use mostly Nintendo platforms and I consider Rondo/SotN to be the start of the next era of the series.
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Post by lurker on Apr 18, 2019 9:16:13 GMT -5
Are we getting the Japanese and English versions of the games? If so I am surprised Kid Dracula made the cut. Sure NES Kid Dracula is not in English but both versions have the Spirits of Halloween that Konami edited because they could be mistaken for KKK. Now I am sad we didn't get the MSX Vampire Killer just for the curiosity factor. I wasn't expecting anything Playstation. Clearly they wanted to use mostly Nintendo platforms and I consider Rondo/SotN to be the start of the next era of the series. I hope they eventually get to the playstation era. There's still no way to play those titles on the Switch.
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Post by silentstorm on Apr 18, 2019 9:23:16 GMT -5
At least the arcade collection pack seems to be composed of American versions according to reviews, even when the Japanese versions are typically liked more, so who knows what versions the Castlevania and Contra packs use.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Apr 18, 2019 9:44:09 GMT -5
Really? Even though they are using the ACA Hamster versions? I guess I should just get them individually via Arcade Archives or just import the collection one day. Castlevania isn't really screwy with international versions (save for CVII localization but it is a feature to me growing up haha) I'm not that worried for that one.
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