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Post by Discoalucard on Nov 7, 2007 21:16:07 GMT -5
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Post by Haz on Nov 8, 2007 0:08:49 GMT -5
Rush 'n Attack was cool, but somehow I never seemed to get past the second level due to the parachute jumpers.
MIA ran a little slow.
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Post by brianc on Nov 8, 2007 1:07:04 GMT -5
There's also a DS version of Rush 'n Attack in Konami Classics Series: Arcade Hits DS. The display is slightly squished due to the DS resolution, but it's a very accurate port of the original, complete with pressing up to jump. The JP version allows you to play Green Beret by switching the language to Japanese, but the US version of the collection only has Rush 'n Attack.
This isn't completely accurate. The stages kind of have bosses, though they aren't of the multiple hit variety. Stage 2 has guys that send dogs at you, stage 3 has guys in mini-helicopter things that die in one hit, and the final stage has a guy with a flamethrower. Only stage 1 has regular enemies waiting at the end.
Sounds like you only tried the FDS version. The screens should be altered with that in mind. The FDS version has some differences from the NES version. The NES version gives you three shots for pickups, not 1 like the FDS version. The FDS version allows you to stock up to four shots for power ups by collecting more than one power up. The NES is limited to three shots no matter what, as far as I could tell.
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Post by Ganelon on Nov 8, 2007 1:21:10 GMT -5
I never liked Rush'n Attack all that much but the NES version was the first game I ever 1CC'ed. Seemed really hard at first but memorized everything after 2 weeks.
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Post by zzz on Nov 8, 2007 2:51:47 GMT -5
This isn't completely accurate. The stages kind of have bosses, though they aren't of the multiple hit variety. Stage 2 has guys that send dogs at you, stage 3 has guys in mini-helicopter things that die in one hit, and the final stage has a guy with a flamethrower. Only stage 1 has regular enemies waiting at the end. They are one-hit enemies. So that is entirely acurate. I played both. I wrote this a while ago, so I can't remember if I forgot that or just didnt notice it. Are you saying the screenshots are from the FDS port? If so, I must have started the wrong rom when I went to take screenshots.
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Post by Discoalucard on Nov 8, 2007 13:22:40 GMT -5
Says Wikipedia:
I'm almost entirely sure that's wrong. I stood place in the NES version and enemies still run at you, although in set intervals, and I think it's a bit slower than the arcade version. Can anyone verify that?
Also, what the heck does "obsolete" mean in this context? It just means it was removed, right?
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Post by brianc on Nov 8, 2007 14:46:47 GMT -5
This isn't completely accurate. The stages kind of have bosses, though they aren't of the multiple hit variety. Stage 2 has guys that send dogs at you, stage 3 has guys in mini-helicopter things that die in one hit, and the final stage has a guy with a flamethrower. Only stage 1 has regular enemies waiting at the end. They are one-hit enemies. So that is entirely acurate. Your sentence makes it sound like the boss enemies are all groups of regular enemies like the first stage. While all one hit, the end of level enemies are different form the normal enemies aside from the first stage. Despite the 1 hit nature, I feel they are still bosses since they guard the end of the level, have patterns that need to be figured out, and are different from normal enemies. I feel the quote should be altered because it's very misleading as is. oh ok. I made the guess based on the info you gave, which describes the FDS Green Beret version and how some of the screens show 1 ammo. However, I could be wrong on the screens being of the FDS one since it does look identical to the NES version. Please try and compare the FDS Green Beret and NES Rush 'n Attack versions again. The info hasn't been altered to reflect the differences between these versions and it's not accurate to the US version of Rush 'n Attack. I mentioned that there is a DS version of Rush 'n Attack in Konami Classics Series: Arcade Hits in this topic. I also mentioned details on it like how it uses a slightly squished resolution and is very accurate to the original right down to the pressing up to jump. I mentioned how it plays Green Beret when the DS is set to Japanese for the Japanese version of Konami Arcade DS, but only has Rush 'n Attack for the US version. Despite this, the DS version was still left out of the article. Last I checked, the assumption on another game Konami Arcade DS, Yie Ar Kung Fu wasn't corrected in the Yie Ar Kung Fu article. The DS Yie Ar Kung Fu has a squished aspect ratio, but is MUCH closer to the arcade than the GBA Yie Ar Kung Fu. The DS version has all of the voice intact, the original hit detection, and none of the extras from the GBA version.
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Post by dire51 on Nov 8, 2007 15:07:26 GMT -5
Very cool. I was hoping someone would do a R'NA/MIA article eventually.
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Post by Discoalucard on Nov 8, 2007 15:44:56 GMT -5
Well in all fairness, I haven't had time to update it yet - I'm still at work Please be mindful that while ZZZ wrote the article, I'm the only one that can update it. At any rate, I'll look into it before it goes live at the end of the week. On the same note, I haven't gotten around to updating the Yie Ar Kung Fu to mention the DS one, or even the 360 version. That will be coming when I get the fortitude to lug my 360 downstairs and hook it up to my PC for screenshots. I need to play it again, but I'm pretty sure the 360 Rush'n Attack adds weird little effects like snow breeze and stuff. RANDOM EDIT AGAIN: Now that I've actually played it, Shaolin Road probably does deserve at least a vague mention in Yie Ar Kung Fu, doesn't it?
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Post by brianc on Nov 8, 2007 15:50:11 GMT -5
Here are some screens from Konami Arcade DS, not all of Rush 'n Attack, but there are some Rush 'n Attack screens in there: media.ds.ign.com/media/861/861464/imgs_2.htmlSome videos of the collection: Japanese version of Konami Arcade DS (shows Green Beret title in intro) Yie Ar Kung Fu Well in all fairness, I haven't had time to update it yet - I'm still at work Please be mindful that while ZZZ wrote the article, I'm the only one that can update it. At any rate, I'll look into it before it goes live at the end of the week. On the same note, I haven't gotten around to updating the Yie Ar Kung Fu to mention the DS one, or even the 360 version. That will be coming when I get the fortitude to lug my 360 downstairs and hook it up to my PC for screenshots. I need to play it again, but I'm pretty sure the 360 Rush'n Attack adds weird little effects like snow breeze and stuff. RANDOM EDIT AGAIN: Now that I've actually played it, Shaolin Road probably does deserve at least a vague mention in Yie Ar Kung Fu, doesn't it? ok, thanks. I like Shao Lin's road quite a bit. I'm not sure if it deserves mention in the article since it might be a coincidence, but the main character definitely resembles Oolong. It's nice seeing Rush 'n Attack and MIA getting props with an article. I love the Chuck Norris comment.
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Post by zzz on Nov 9, 2007 0:53:55 GMT -5
Now that I've actually played it, Shaolin Road probably does deserve at least a vague mention in Yie Ar Kung Fu, doesn't it? If I ever get around to it, I have been meaning to write a piece about Shaolin's Road. It's a GREAT game, and I actually play it quite regularly, so it definitely deserves its own write up. However, its simplicity makes it a bit difficult to find much to say about it. If I have your ok, I was going to make it extremely tongue-in-cheek. It would still work as a straight discussion of the game, but would also work as a more humor oriented piece. Whether that guy is supposed to be Oolong or not, his design is definitely based on Oolong's. It might be worth mentioning, in the same paragraph were Lee's Parodius cameo is mentioned, that Konami based the design of the playable character in Shaolin's Road on Oolong, but since he is never identified as Oolong it's probably best to avoid claiming they are the same character.
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Post by dire51 on Nov 9, 2007 9:25:28 GMT -5
I'd love to see a Shao-Lin's Road article. That game was one of the reasons I bought the PS1 Konami Arcade Classics disc... I used to play it all the time in the early '80s in the laundromat my parents went to.
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Post by splatter on Sept 4, 2013 20:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by Discoalucard on Sept 4, 2013 20:51:06 GMT -5
Oh, cool. I'll have to add this in at some point. And also suffer through that weird XBLA game to upgrade the article.
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Post by sogetsu on Sept 5, 2013 11:07:19 GMT -5
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