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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 18:27:25 GMT -5
Comic discussion thread.
Let the nerd rage flow like lava.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 18:38:24 GMT -5
At first, I thought the greatest offense of "One More Day" was the fact that they used Aunt May's death as the catalyst. How many fucking times does this woman need to die? I got to talking to a friend last week, though, and she really made me think. To comic book writers, women are just tools. Background scenery at best, misogynistic playthings at worst. Read anything Frank Miller's ever done for some good examples.
Anyway, comic writers have no respect for women. It probably comes from a nerd's well-known inability to breed with members of the opposite sex. It makes for some pretty insulting shit, though. Not only did Aunt May get used as a toy to instigate Peter's deal with the devil, but he made the choice without really giving a shit about what Mary Jane thought. Yes, her life is rather lousy as the wife of Spider-Man, but she loved the guy. She signed on for the whole package. Maybe she deserves something better than waking up at 3 AM with Venom's tongue on her cheek, but shouldn't SHE be the one to make that choice? Not Peter on a manly man power trip? Oh, my life is SOOOOOO angsty! Wah wah wah wah wah.
Good fucking god, Marvel. It seems like Peter is either bi-polar, or he has a vagina secreted inside those web shooters. His mood shifts from being crazy happy to crazy sad, sometimes within the span of a couple of pages. The man is a goddamn lunatic, and it's all Marvel's fault.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 19:28:48 GMT -5
I'll be honest, a lot of the post- "Brand New Day" stuff is pretty decent, and a lot better than I would have expected given the rotating creative teams. That being said, Peter is back to being "1980's Peter"...not the loveable nerd Peter, the "Archie" Peter (ie., dealing with multiple hot chicks and the problems they entail), but the pathetic, deadbeat, somewhat creepy Peter. He's basically like your pal from school that's in his mid-20's, drifts from one bullshit job to another without anything materializing, and willing to settle for the easiest skank they can convince to come home with them. I know being an "everyman" is part of his appeal, but that doesn't mean he has to be a fucking loser on skid row for the comic to work. I kind of liked JMS's Peter, especially when he got a job as a teacher. Apparently Joe Quesada didn't. Here's Joe Quesada's ideal Peter Parker: garfieldminusgarfield.net
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Post by thethird on Apr 25, 2010 19:31:55 GMT -5
I have to say that what I've read of Spider-Man Post OMD was actually really good. New Ways To Die was damn enjoyable and how I like my Spider-Man-quick, clever, and just a lot of fun.
I haven't read it but apparently The Gauntlet (a three-issue story centered around Rhino, and a new imposter trying to kill him to take his place) was amazing (no pun intended), according to the fellas I talk to over on the comic site I frequent.
Completely agree on everything about OMD. There's really no limit to how long someone could go on spouting how ridiculous that entire thing was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 19:47:19 GMT -5
Ha! You're absolutely right. I love that website, too. Always good for a laugh.
At any rate, I'll have to check out the Brand New Day stuff, then. From what I've seen, it looked to be like more of the same, but who knows. I've just had it up to HERE with "Green Goblin fucks up Peter's life" storylines. And don't even get me started on Anti-Venom...
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Post by Smithee of Zur-En-Arrh on Apr 25, 2010 19:57:25 GMT -5
I like DC, and mostly read Batman. I got a new Batman comic for my brother at Christmas, I should read that now that he's done. Can't remember which one it is.
Once I get my job, I'll be stopping at Wizards Tower often on my way back from work (assuming I work at the Old Folks Home just past it), and then I'll pick up comics like flyyyyyyyyyy baby.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 20:08:27 GMT -5
Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who's absolutely livid over what DC has done to Nora Frieze...
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Post by Mr. Faptastic on Apr 25, 2010 21:51:38 GMT -5
Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who's absolutely livid over what DC has done to Nora Frieze... what
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Post by Pitchfork on Apr 25, 2010 21:52:41 GMT -5
Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who's absolutely livid over what DC has done to Nora Frieze... Don't worry. Superboy Prime and his amazing Continuity Change Dimension Fist Strike will make everything right again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 21:54:59 GMT -5
Or how about the way they've been using Zatanna to just wipe people's memories, just for the fuck of it? Since when was she devious? I also like the way they casually toss around rape, like it's a valid catalyst for a story.
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Post by Pitchfork on Apr 25, 2010 22:15:25 GMT -5
Nevertheless, you must concede that sequence in Identity Crisis where Deathstroke about singlehandedly took out most of the Justice League was pretty sweet :D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 22:33:17 GMT -5
Until they totally pussed out and let Ollie get the drop on him. Give me a goddamn break. Then Slade had the chance to get his revenge, but he just casually let it slide? This is what I hate about comics. We need to evolve past this old soap-opera pastiche, and move onto something more believable.
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Post by thethird on Apr 25, 2010 22:38:05 GMT -5
Try Invincible.
The lack of a humongous goddamn universe and history allows for a sense of old-timey storytelling without all the soap-opera stuff, but you still get gigantic amounts of gore and sweet art and stuff!
It's seriously probably the best superhero book on the market. Really.
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Post by rorshacma on Apr 25, 2010 23:37:25 GMT -5
Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who's absolutely livid over what DC has done to Nora Frieze... You're telling me that crap is still in continuity? The only Batman-centric title I currently read is "Gotham City Sirens", so I was rather hoping this was quietly forgotten and swept under the retcon rug.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 23:45:40 GMT -5
Far as I've seen, it hasn't been mentioned in the post-Infinite Crisis world. They'd probably just say it's part of the multiverse now.
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