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Post by JDarkside on Dec 30, 2015 10:11:17 GMT -5
So, I'm planning to do an article on Undertale to try and explain some of its influences, so I decided it was finally time to start reading Homestuck. I'm currently on the second part of act six and it's ...boy, it's something. I can see why this series is so niche now. Fans were REALLY bad at explaining the series. For those out of the loop, Homestuck is a webcomic that also uses flash animation and gifs about some kids who start playing a new videogame that allows them to affect the world around them. By the end of act one, the apocalypse begins and things quickly spiral into a giant, overly-complicated meta-narrative involving aliens, parallel dimensions, time travel, demi-gods, and multiple stories in stories that somehow all affect each other. It's utterly brilliant in many ways, but that's not why I love it. No, I love it because it's basically a long collection of shitposts with a narrative.                             |
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Post by susanismyalias on Dec 30, 2015 10:21:18 GMT -5
no thanks
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 10:22:41 GMT -5
I like Karkat but miss the pre-troll part of the storyline when it was more an ontological mystery.
I also dislike the post-troll storylines because that's when the erotic fanfiction and in-jokes really started multiplying.
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on Dec 30, 2015 10:23:14 GMT -5
I used to love Homestuck a lot but the act 6 has been a series of consecutive shark jumps. I think it just drags on for far too long, repeating the same things and adding new characters who are just slight variations on old characters and turning a villain into a strawman of people who don't like the comic.
still, acts from 2 to 4 are amazing and everything else besides act 6 is pretty good. the music kicks ass, the visuals can be pretty amazing (surprisingly) and I like its crazy worldbuilding based on weird internal logic and game-like rules. it' complex, slightly post-modern and more than a bit nerdy. it just should have ended somewhere around 2012. in fact, did Andrew manage to finish it? I've lost interest about a year ago.
BTW Problem Sleuth is pretty great
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Post by JDarkside on Dec 30, 2015 10:33:29 GMT -5
I'm thinking of looking at Problem Sleuth soon. Act 5 is probably the best written part in terms of character so far, but the pacing was absolutely shot. Act 4 was probably my favorite part overall so far. And this was obviously the best part of the whole series. www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004687 |
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on Dec 30, 2015 10:45:22 GMT -5
my favorite act was the fourth one as well but the best moment in the comic was [ S ] WV: Ascend animation. it's pretty low-key but it made me feel the same way some parts of Chrono Trigger did when I played it as a teen and that's a great achievement in my eyes. as for act 5, 5-1 was generally enjoyable but 5-2 was extremely hit or miss (meta elements with Scratch, the ancestors story and [ S ] Cascade were fine, everything else was meh) but the biggest problem was the impact it had on the whole story by moving it away from the kids to trolls who IMHO worked better as side characters. a lot of bullshit in the act 6 was a consequence of that: the older kids so you can have even more teenage drama, more trolls so you can have more internet memes etc.
I liked it more when the cast was less aggressively quirky and the storyline progressed at a reasonable pace as opposed to being padded to hell and back so that it can go on until the heat death of the universe.
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Post by Weasel on Dec 30, 2015 14:44:25 GMT -5
No, I love it because it's basically a long collection of shitposts with a narrative. That's specifically what I loved about Problem Sleuth (which I was following back when it was only halfway done). To me, it was essentially a ridiculous "let's play" article where the game was actively working against the viewer suggestions half the time (like the object-duality glitch, etc). For the first few acts, Homestuck felt like it was going much the same direction, which I liked. Until the troll characters showed up. Then there was an entire act focused entirely on them. I hated reading them so much, because typing impediments don't make for good reading IMO, but I stuck it out until I finally just got tired of reading all the overly long chat logs. I wanted to go back to the more simple storytelling of Problem Sleuth, that didn't require people to infodump for several pages while simultaneously replacing every letter S with a number 2 because I AM QUIRKY AND ENDEARINGLY IRRITATING LOL. I think I finally gave up the series when, for the second time, they resorted to a huge infodump by a self-insert of Andrew Hussie. I haven't been back since. I don't think I really care about where it's gone from there. |
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Post by GamerL on Dec 30, 2015 23:54:06 GMT -5
I've not read Homestuck, though I have heard of it, when I went to the con earlier this month I sat near a guy in the food court dressed as what I recognized as a Homestuck character.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 1:00:59 GMT -5
What he said. This looks annoying as shit. Like a giant circle jerk of ADD kids raised by the internet. I'm sure adults said the same thing about Beavis and Butt-Head when I was a kid, but this time it's true! |
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Dec 31, 2015 1:13:25 GMT -5
What he said. This looks annoying as shit. Like a giant circle jerk of ADD kids raised by the internet. I'm sure adults said the same thing about Beavis and Butt-Head when I was a kid, but this time it's true! What they said. |
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Post by TheChosen on Dec 31, 2015 1:15:53 GMT -5
I liked Problem Sleuth back in the day. I think I did try Homestuck long time ago when it was still a new thing, but it didn't seem as interesting.
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Post by Ike on Dec 31, 2015 2:33:19 GMT -5
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Post by The Great Klaid on Dec 31, 2015 6:12:17 GMT -5
I liked Problem Sleuth back in the day. I think I did try Homestuck long time ago when it was still a new thing, but it didn't seem as interesting. Homestuck just didn't seem like it was as funny. I'm still not sure how Homestuck became a fandom. It's like if 8-Bit Theater fans were still getting shit to this day. Which I just realized was over 5 years ago. God that's weird. When Order of the Stick is done, I'm pretty much finished with Webcomics. And I don't know how I feel about that. |
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Post by JDarkside on Dec 31, 2015 8:17:10 GMT -5
Getting deeper into act six and I like the new characters more than I was expecting.
Interludes are still my favorite parts, though, because Karkat can't catch a break.
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Post by personman on Dec 31, 2015 13:48:54 GMT -5
People implore me to read this since I enjoy a series called Prequel, an Elder Scrolls parody where a cat lady screws up at everything, which was aparently inspired by Homestuck.
So I keep having to explain to people that a similar format doesn't exscuse what is essentially 4chan the comic (or whatever obnoxius toxic community you want to insert). Then they usually start throwing tantrums over someone else not liking what they like just as another fan base seems to have a tendency to do...
Huzzah, internet.
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