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Post by bakudon on May 4, 2016 2:10:57 GMT -5
Yup, I’ve also thought that MGS2 was not really that insane after all. I’d say part of it is that without internet, it was much harder to get access to like-minded individuals on any matter. As your social contacts were mostly limited to people physically around you, one had to conform more in order to get through life with human contact. Now it’s simple to form a social sphere with people in the internet, where similar preferences and opinions amplify each other. You can cherry-pick the ”good people” out of the world, so to say. In contrast, this has the effect of making one less willing and capable of dealing with the others. Unfortunately, the internet doesn’t quite run itself yet, so the smooth operation of a society still requires people from different walks of life to cooperate. Having been convinced that everything you think is correct and great is usually detrimental to this. Certainly the internet is a source of much convenience in the modern world. But, sometimes I think if it is really worth it. At least someone should blow up social media  |
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Post by GamerL on May 4, 2016 3:41:21 GMT -5
I was basically a kid when I first played MGS2 and I couldn't make heads or tails of what the Colonel AI was talking about at the end, but the last time I played it as an adult I got goosebumps, I was like "damn, a game from 2001 is saying this?" My point is, America is a very, very diverse nation in many different ways and it's sometimes an uneasy alliance, it really is a miracle this country did not split into two after the Civil War and mass media for a long time made a very purposeful effort to try to shape Americans' attitude, but the internet is a complete game changer in this regards and we are just now in the 2010s starting to see it truly change things. Information technology always brings radical change dating all the way back to the invention of the printing press and the internet is arguably the biggest information sharing technological innovation in well, human history, I'm serious, it's every prior innovation rolled into one and then some. |
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Post by nightdreamer on May 4, 2016 8:32:42 GMT -5
what's up everyone how's it going?
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on May 4, 2016 10:38:15 GMT -5
But where did Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carrey and Donald Trump hear about it? I'm willing to bet the internet. not really, they heard about this because of shitty science reporting in traditional media. it went like this: 1. Wakefield published his shitty fake research in The Lancet in 1998 2. because The Lancet is a respected medical journal, newspapers picked the story up and added some good old panic because that's how nespapers work 3. the usual peer review process followed. other research failed to reproduce Wakefield's result so the article got retracted but the damage is already done and when people get convinced that something will kill them, they become immune to arguments 4. it was later found out that Wakefield's research was not just wrong, it was falsified. he lost his license but again, damage was done. in other words:  |
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on May 4, 2016 10:46:00 GMT -5
what's up everyone how's it going? Fine, how're you? Actually, I'm kinda annoyed right now but you can thank iTunes for that. |
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Post by nightdreamer on May 4, 2016 11:36:00 GMT -5
what's up everyone how's it going? Fine, how're you? Actually, I'm kinda annoyed right now but you can thank iTunes for that. Is it iTunes interface? I haven't been updating my iTunes because of its increased convolution with every new version. I'm good. Haven't had much time to post in here lately and wondering how the regulars are doing. |
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on May 4, 2016 14:11:29 GMT -5
Is it iTunes interface? I haven't been updating my iTunes because of its increased convolution with every new version. Well, I don't have any problems with the iTunes functionality or interface (in fact, I love the grid thing iTunes has). But for some reason, since about half a year ago or something, iTunes keeps fucking around. It forgets random album covers. It splits albums into two groups of random tracks (for example some tracks under 'Ramones' (how I've set it) and some 'The Ramones', or 'Frank Zappa' (how I've set it) and 'The Mothers of Invention'). I've finally updated it again (don't do that often) and although it forgot about 25 albumcovers when I updated it, it seems like the problems don't happen as often anymore. In fact, let me restart iTunes to see what things I can find this time... -Strange Days has no album cover -One Size Fits All's artist info is changed from 'Frank Zappa' to 'Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention' -7 random tracks from the F-Zero Guitar Arrange album have had their artist info changed to Japanese characters, splitting the album in two The weirdest thing though, is how I can't get it to capitalize New wave as New Wave. Every other genre I have each word capitalized, but with New Wave, I can't get it to. I can change it in Windows, I can change it in iTunes, 'New Wave' is even an option in the drop-down menu, as is 'New wave', but neither picking it from the drop-down menu, or typing it manually actually saves it as New Wave. Now, I know that people often like to complain about iTunes as a program, but I've never had any issues with it (it could use a little more customization, but other than that I can do everything I want to do), except for these annoyances. And even then, I have an iPod. |
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Post by Échalote on May 4, 2016 15:30:31 GMT -5
IMHO internet makes it easier to find solid evidence that those people are wrong. Internet did have a part in the democratization of conspiracy theories bc it rendered them very accessible, but it's only one of numerous factors (I can dig up some interviews or papers about it if you want, they'll probably be only in french tho). Imo what's interesting is that internet created what Levi-Strauss calls a "bricolage" : conspiracy theories almagamated to create a "great narrative" where theories answer and explains each other. Anyway my finals are over, I "only" have to anxiously wait 2 weeks to know if my semester is validated. |
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on May 4, 2016 23:42:25 GMT -5
IMHO internet makes it easier to find solid evidence that those people are wrong. Internet did have a part in the democratization of conspiracy theories bc it rendered them very accessible, but it's only one of numerous factors (I can dig up some interviews or papers about it if you want, they'll probably be only in french tho). Imo what's interesting is that internet created what Levi-Strauss calls a "bricolage" : conspiracy theories almagamated to create a "great narrative" where theories answer and explains each other. it's true, but it also had a part in democratization of actual knowledge. the next big bullshit is always just a few clicks away but so is its refutation. the problem, of course, is in that the conspiracy theories (and general pseudoscientific bullshit from aliens to fad diets) are often more exciting than the truth so people might prefer to click in the other direction |
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Post by nightdreamer on May 5, 2016 4:28:44 GMT -5
Back when I had an 30GB iPod, I would manually download some of the album cover arts so that every song in my library has one. Some of the albums I have are pretty obscure, local band stuff, so it's not like iTunes knows the images it could automatically download. One time, I plugged my iPod for too long and had it sync, and it mixed up the cover art, resulted to my songs having really (hilariously) wrong images. My Bill Evans with his really soft jazz album would have the cover of Iron Maiden or something. It's a nightmare for my OCD. So even though I've plenty of Apple products (I eventually replaced my 30GB with a 120GB iPod, although I didn't bother dealing with the cover art anymore) I'm not exactly in good terms with iTunes... edit: mods can you change the thread title? The 'plx' typo is really driving me nuts and I would prefer if it's just 'General Chat part 2' or something. |
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on May 5, 2016 5:13:15 GMT -5
I know that for example France is really worried about the increasing number of (young) people who believe in conspiracy-type things. The problem is that on the WWW, these are often the worst people to argue with/try to reason with, since they always tend to call you naive or say something like, "do you actually believe that?", and they tend to value information with absolutely no backup so much that it's hard to really get through to them. nightdreamerI learned pretty early on that you NEVER EVER want to sync shit with your iTunes/Pod combo. So, I don't do that. It does so on its own. And I always download my own album covers. Even if it's a well known album, I still want to pick the best looking one or the one that has colors that are closest to the real thing (speaking of OCD). I do everything manually and have it set up to never do anything on its own. So it's obviously an error (since it also often only changes half of the album, splitting it in two). But that's the problem, I have no idea what causes it. And plx is not a typo, actually. |
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Post by nightdreamer on May 5, 2016 5:16:41 GMT -5
Then what is a plx then? And anyway my point still stands that the thread title is dumb.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on May 5, 2016 5:20:25 GMT -5
It's just something people say instead of 'pls'. It's probably the first time in...what, over 5 years I've seen someone use it, though. Maybe Joseph Joestar was feeling nostalgic for the 00's. |
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Post by Échalote on May 5, 2016 6:31:44 GMT -5
It's not really about "being exciting" but more about finding comfort in thinking that the world is orderly and that things happens because of the actions of a single invisible hand (whether it is jews, the bankers, cultural marxism, etc) rather than the chaotic, multi-factorial mess where no one is at the helm that it actually is.
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Post by zargon on May 5, 2016 9:53:24 GMT -5
Yeah, people always seem to want to believe the people running society are way more competent than they actually are, whether good or bad. The reality kind of makes me think of the world like a ship heading for an iceberg, and everyone's trying to shove the captain's hat on each other.
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