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Post by GamerL on May 15, 2016 18:51:05 GMT -5
I try not to think about it...sometimes I worry I'll wake up 40 one day wondering what the fuck happened. It's so bad I'll honestly get the years mixed up sometimes 'cause I find it crazy that we're here in 2016. It shouldn't be 2016 yet! Slow down dammit, I'm not ready! I have the same fear, that next thing I know it's going to be the year 2030 and I'll be 40.
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Post by Resident Tsundere on May 16, 2016 2:37:32 GMT -5
Wait, did he quit or was he banned? I was wondering the same thing, I think he might have deleted his own account. Anyhoo I'm pretty confident Trump wont win, but the bar has nevertheless been lowered for American politics, which is unsettling enough, but I think what it probably ultimately really means is that we're witnessing the death of the republican party, they wound up undermining their own authority by constantly pushing an anti-government attitude as a way to slam Obama but now they've found that whoops, they're part of the government too and their former followers have turned on them, there's no going back after Trump, they've completely screwed themselves over and it's hilarious because they're getting exactly what they deserve for supposedly being pro-America patriots while also trying to sabotage America at every turn just to get at Obama. What we should really be worried about are the Democrats and Hilary, I have a lot of concerns about Hilary because as I've been learning she, like Bill before her are really just "conservative-lite" and not actual progressives and with the very, very precarious situation in the world today military wise with ISIS, Syria and Russia I worry she'll get us embroiled in some sort of war. One of my friends keeps telling me that the Republican party is in its death throes, but I'm not sure if that's a good thing, because ideally, both parties would be able to work together to help Americans. Ideally, that is... Our political climate is far from ideal.
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Post by bakudon on May 16, 2016 3:35:13 GMT -5
Theoretically, any democratic system is built on the same ideas: That people all want the same thing – the success of their community – but possibly disagree on the means of achieving the results. A more ulitiarian interpretation might be that everyone wants to benefit from the system, so asking for a majority opinion guarantees that the majority benefits the most, so that total happiness is the greatest. This goal gets lost when parties concentrate on fighting each other for power, though in a sense its inevitable, because no matter what your goals are, power is a prerequisite to achieving them.
I'm not one to tell USA how to handle their society, but I live in a country that has much more viable parties than the US, and we sometimes make fun of USA which presents itself as a land of democracy while having "only" two real parties. Not that we're neccessarily in any position to do so, since all the parties here are essentially social democratic at heart, and despite differing rhetoric seem to make more or less the same decisions when put in power.
Against that backdrop, the Republicans breaking up would make the US system almost a one-party one. Do the Democrats have internal disagreements that might tear them apart if a common enemy is not there to hold them together?
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Post by noyemik on May 16, 2016 8:03:59 GMT -5
The democrats absolutely have problems presenting any kind of unification at this time. I voted Democrat of course, but I can't deny the liberal scene in the US and the establishment are at odds with each other... and there's even infighting among the different groups in the same section of the spectrum.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on May 16, 2016 9:46:27 GMT -5
and we sometimes make fun of USA which presents itself as a land of democracy while having "only" two real parties. Same here. It's about the bare minimum for a democracy, you have two choices (essentially). Also, the dumb-ass way of voting with electors is equally laughable to us. I mean, I'm sure most Americans realize this as well, and I know you can't simply change things overnight, but goddamn is it dumb.
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Post by JDarkside on May 16, 2016 10:34:32 GMT -5
The democrats absolutely have problems presenting any kind of unification at this time. I voted Democrat of course, but I can't deny the liberal scene in the US and the establishment are at odds with each other... and there's even infighting among the different groups in the same section of the spectrum. Blame age gaps and progressivism having a long and proud history of not actually helping minorities when they need it most. Most people sick of liberal bullshit either go full party of drop out entirely because none of the parties seem to give a shit about their issues.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 11:49:26 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the Democrat's answer to helping minorities usually amounts to creating new entitlement programs and going back to their rich person lives.
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Post by bakudon on May 16, 2016 12:05:03 GMT -5
Well, democracy is not about helping minorities anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 12:09:31 GMT -5
Well, democracy is not about helping minorities anyway. The system works.
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Post by noyemik on May 16, 2016 12:38:21 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the Democrat's answer to helping minorities usually amounts to creating new entitlement programs and going back to their rich person lives. Honestly, for someone like me, it's a lot more helpful to have a chance at some upward mobility than a shaky guarantee that I can coast close to the bottom without touching it. Rather than creating new welfare programs, which don't help in the long term, they should campaign for the government to create more jobs—infrastructure in a number of cities and territories is seriously strained, and having fresh bodies to throw at it could mean the difference between "unemployable" and "gainfully employed" for some people. You can't put welfare on a resume and people without kids and fucked by the system have no access to that benefit anyway. It's all a bum deal.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 12:51:34 GMT -5
We also incentivize people to remain on welfare while simultaneously punishing them for not reaching beyond it. If people are receiving assistance and earn a small percentage more than what they normally make, they receive drastic cuts to their benefits. I can understand not wanting to encourage people to essentially make a profit off of public funds, but at the same time, they will never be able to integrate back into normal society if we never allow them the chance to save some money.
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Post by paperchema on May 16, 2016 15:14:01 GMT -5
The democrats absolutely have problems presenting any kind of unification at this time. I voted Democrat of course, but I can't deny the liberal scene in the US and the establishment are at odds with each other... and there's even infighting among the different groups in the same section of the spectrum. But that's natural, isn't it? Even the founders of modern Marxism and neoliberalism were always throwing crap at each other. Those were supposed to be cohesive movements. And sometimes that's good. Different opinions and whatnot.
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Post by JDarkside on May 16, 2016 15:21:27 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the Democrat's answer to helping minorities usually amounts to creating new entitlement programs and going back to their rich person lives. Honestly, for someone like me, it's a lot more helpful to have a chance at some upward mobility than a shaky guarantee that I can coast close to the bottom without touching it. Rather than creating new welfare programs, which don't help in the long term, they should campaign for the government to create more jobs—infrastructure in a number of cities and territories is seriously strained, and having fresh bodies to throw at it could mean the difference between "unemployable" and "gainfully employed" for some people. You can't put welfare on a resume and people without kids and fucked by the system have no access to that benefit anyway. It's all a bum deal. The problem is that these sorts of jobs don't last or are of bottom of the ladder sort people are desperately trying to survive on. It's a start, but not a full solution. Minimum wage actually being a living wage, like it's supposed to bloody be, would be a better first step.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 15:26:21 GMT -5
I used to be against a $15/hour minimum wage out of a fear that it would simply be offset by a massive increase in prices for everything. Now I think that people just deserve to have the dignity of being able to pay their bills, and the difference can be made up by the rich.
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Post by X-pert74 on May 16, 2016 17:20:20 GMT -5
Some person on a Facebook group I'm a part of, commented on a video I posted of my beating Contra without dying, saying "Ur a gamer babe I'd like in my life". I clicked on her profile (apparently she uses female pronouns?), and her bio proudly states that she is "100% anti-mexican" and "100% anti-terrorist (Muslim)" Along with that, she also has a My Little Pony profile pic, which I find hilarious.
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