Post by Elvin Atombender on Jan 15, 2017 6:49:24 GMT -5
I played the enhanced edition when it was released on the XBox 360 and I agree that is a very good game.
Speaking of obscure pop culture references: the "Portero" costumes are a homage to Jorge Campos, a Mexican soccer player known both for being one of the best goalkeepers of his generation and for his eccentric playing outfits, which were designed by himself.
Post by Gendo Ikari on Jan 15, 2017 9:08:12 GMT -5
It was worth mentioning that Guacamelee was among the launch titles for the Vita and its success was made even more notable by having been released with little to no fanfare; the fact it was a cross-buy with the PS3 version (buy one, get the other) helped. They were also the only versions of the game beside PC originally, the Super update has brought the game to many other platforms. Also, El Infierno was a DLC, later integrated in Super; the special costumes that had to be unlocked there can now be purchased with special coins at save points, like the extra moves. Regrettably, on PC they sell the two versions as separate products, which makes little sense, although I think I got a discount when I decided to get the Super edition on Steam during a sale. The new content made it worth playing the familiar parts again though, the Trio is possibly my favourite boss (the dialogue following their defeat is also surprisingly touching), and the combat system was as fun and tight as ever.
The Alebrije is a big reference, a cross between the Bull/Zombie monster of Rondo of Blood, and Bowser from Super Mario Bros (the axe is even visibile in the article's screenshot).
Post by Woody Alien on Jan 16, 2017 10:07:44 GMT -5
I have to agree, this game is pretty damn good, and not only because I love metroidvanias. (I didn't play the enhanced version) Gameplay, graphics, music, character design, lore, it's all great and coherent, and what's more the humour never feels forced! The references are plenty (just see the posters in the screenshot of the chicken's gym), but I have to agree that some meme references will become quite obscure: Three Wolf Moon and IKEA Monkey, anyone? The latter one amusingly becomes a "Missing" poster with Manny Calavera's face in the world of the dead!
I read somewhere that originally there was supposed to be a third dimension, the world of nightmares or something like that, removed for time and money constraints. But I can't find the source at the moment.
And finally, some of my usual nitpicking:
There's a couple of new areas to explore, along with a new boss, the conjoined skeletons "El Trio de la Meurte" [should be Muerte], who themselves [verb missing] a thinly-veiled parody of failed Kickstarter projects.
There's still a bit of stereotyping in there, given the luchadors [should be luchadores I think?]
Comedy was probably the one aspect about this game I kinda disliked, mostly due to rather small reference pools - your usual Zelda/Mario/Metroid jokes and internet memes, with sneaky Grim Fandango poster being arguably the deepest cut. Some of those worked surprisingly well (kudos to writers for turning the trite "Princess in another castle" reference into a punchline that was actually pretty funny and plot-related), but more often than not it doesn't make too many steps from the comfort zone of webcomic-esque gags about classic NES games.
..welp, that, and the Tule Tree orb challenge required to get the Good Ending - it's like level designer tried to be all Super Meat Boy-ish, ignoring the fact that controls and physics aren't really designed for ultra-intricate platforming. Honestly, it's one of those sections where you hope somebody got fired for that kind of crap.
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Post by Woody Alien on Feb 28, 2020 10:08:27 GMT -5
I just started playing Guacamelee 2 and, while I'm enjoying it a lot (especially the whole multiple dimensions thing), it seems now much more difficult than before in its platforming challenges. Or maybe after 3 years my reflexes have worsened again?
Another small tidbit: the article for the first game says that the humor will get old because of memes, and makes the example of Pepe the Frog. However the one referenced in the game is actually the more obscure "Foul Bachelor Frog": knowyourmeme.com/memes/foul-bachelor-frog OK, the point that the references will get old still stands (whoever still remembers Ragefaces or Ikea Monkey besides geeks like me?), but in this case there isn't the connotation that Pepe gained in the years after the game was made.