Help getting CD game to run in Dosbox via WinCDemu

[apachacha]

Been trying to get Rallo Gump running again. I uninstalled the old Daemon Tools as it wasn't working and downloaded WinCDEmu.

Every time I mount it and go to rallo/rallo it says "can't access cd-rom".


When I run the "install", it asks me to select a drive.

I pick the new drive.

It tells me to "specify the disk destination subdirectory"

If I input "r/rallo/rallo", or most anything I can think of it tells me "unable to make new directory".


And when did manage to get the instalation going along a bit further by not putting in any subdirectory and pressing enter it told me it couldn't access the output file MIDPAK.AD, even though that file is located in r:/rallo

Edit: I managed to successfully instal via creating an iso and running the instal then, but the process of mounting it in Dosbox is kind of cumbersome and the internal save function doesn't seem to work. It creates save files technically, but they appear to not be possible to load. I've got save states on this version of Dos Box but the problem is how long this game is overall, that might be an issue.

[apachacha]

And now after playing it the whole day by just using the save state function, six worlds in, with no working in game save, the thing bugged out and refuses to load the next level.

FUCK.

Any dieas what I did wrong so I could........SIGH, eventually maybe possibly go back and attempt to do this whole fucking monstrous slog again ? Some issue wih the imgmount thing I reckon.

Sorry that I'm so irritated but jesus fuck all day wasted on this >_>

None of my cheatery works, no matter if I reset and restart, loading the save state will appear to work but after finishing the level, or dying, I die, again.

[toei]

Emulating CD-based games with DosBox is a huge pain. I had the hardest time running that Korean beat-'em-up derboo wrote about. You can probably find help on one of the larger sites dedicated to abandonware, like abandonia.

[jorpho]

Is there some reason why you are using WinCDEmu instead of using the imgmount command in DOSBox?

Sept 21, 2017 2:11:38 GMT -5 apachacha said:

the process of mounting it in Dosbox is kind of cumbersome

Not sure what you mean..? You can add the necessary "mount" lines in the "autoexec" section at the bottom of DOSBox.conf, and they'll run automatically every time you launch DOSBox. Alternatively, you can set up a Windows shortcut with multiple "-c" switches for each command.

and the internal save function doesn't seem to work. It creates save files technically, but they appear to not be possible to load.

When installing the game, you need to mount a directory for drive C, like C:\Users\whatever\Desktop\DOSGames, and usually mount the CD as well. Then, most importantly, you need to mount the directories the same way the next time you run the game. Even if you installed the game to C:\Users\whatever\Desktop\DOSGames\Rallo, you will need to mount C:\Users\whatever\Desktop\DOSGames as drive C and then type "c:" and "cd rallo". (If you changed this after installing the game, it might explain why your savestate is no longer working.)

It is also important to use a directory that DOSBox has write access to. A random folder like C:\Rallo (on your actual C drive) probably won't work.

Also, don't mount your disk image as drive R. That could well be something the programmers never expected when writing the installer. Just use drive D.

I've got save states on this version of Dos Box

Which version of DOSBox are you using specifically? The last release of the SVN Daum version is widely acknowledged to be buggy. I'm not sure what the best version is these days if you want to use save states.

[apachacha]

Sept 22, 2017 0:23:07 GMT -5 jorpho said:

Is there some reason why you are using WinCDEmu instead of using the imgmount command in DOSBox?.

If I try that it tells me it needs to be on a drive or host.

That's why I created an ISO with WinCDemu and installed it on my D hard drive based off that.

Also using version 0.74

Also I'm rather consed by all this. I used this vide as a guide

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUPWJbbCYtE

And then did this (see attachement) to access the iso, as accessing the iso like this is the only way I could find where the instalation for the rallo gump game will ever even finish.




The only reason why I think this MAY have bugged out is that while making the ISO it claimed it found 98 bad sectors.

Should I try to download the whole game again ? Or it is the WinCDEmu made Isos that are making the game bug out ?

Thank you for the help.

Edit: Holy shit I think that WAS it. By just mounting the Cue file it seems to run and work. Let's see if I can replicate it.

Edit the 2nd: Well now I can't bloody replicate that.

[Weasel]

The one thing I'm noticing from your screenshot:

The C drive needs to be the drive the game is INSTALLED to. It effectively serves as the DOS hard drive (the "guest"). It can be located anywhere on your system's physical storage (the "host"). For example, I put all my DOS games in g:\games\dosbox\c\ (on the host), and in the Autoexec section, I do this:
mount c g:\games\dosbox\c
Then the C drive is always located in the same place. A lot of games don't expect to have changed their location, especially ones that run off CD-ROM and don't install.

Then mount your CD-ROM, either as a physical drive (on the host - assuming your host's disc drive is letter R):
mount d r:\ -t cdrom
Or the CUE sheet as an image:
imgmount d g:\games\dosbox\isos\rallogump.cue -t iso

Then you can visit the D drive, install the game, and run it as expected.

[apachacha]

Sept 22, 2017 10:29:08 GMT -5 Weasel said:

The one thing I'm noticing from your screenshot:

The C drive needs to be the drive the game is INSTALLED to. It effectively serves as the DOS hard drive (the "guest"). It can be located anywhere on your system's physical storage (the "host"). For example, I put all my DOS games in g:\games\dosbox\c\ (on the host), and in the Autoexec section, I do this:
mount c g:\games\dosbox\c
Then the C drive is always located in the same place. A lot of games don't expect to have changed their location, especially ones that run off CD-ROM and don't install.

Then mount your CD-ROM, either as a physical drive (on the host - assuming your host's disc drive is letter R):
mount d r:\ -t cdrom
Or the CUE sheet as an image:
imgmount d g:\games\dosbox\isos\rallogump.cue -t iso

Then you can visit the D drive, install the game, and run it as expected.

I had it installed in the same place, but I kept running into the issue that either I ran the exe from the cue and it can't save or load saves, or I run it from the installed Rallo folder, but THEN it tells me "Your cd could not be read"/You don't have the disc in.

I can't seem to be able to load it in a way where the image is imagemounted AND it knows about the installed rallo folder. The only time it knows about it and saves to it is after imagemounting it and then installing it. After that it doesn't recognise it and I have no idea how to load both at once, even though I even had both the cue file and the installed folder in the same folder on D.


Also I tried to imgmount c d/rallobin/rallobin.cue -t iso and then run install

and

imgmount c d/rallobin/rallobin.cue -t iso and run install

But both times when I selected the custom instalation to drive C/D respectively or if I used standard Install, it ALWAYS stops the instalation, saying "Unable to access disk drive B".

EDIT:

Okay for future refference

1. Mount the folder d:/rallobin as Drive D

2. Then Imgmount rallobin.cue as C (imgmount c d:/rallobin/rallobin.cue -t iso)

3. Then go back to D, cd to Rallo and run Rallo


Now to hope it don't fuck up in the same spot. Then again this is the original file I used way back when to get to the place where I got stuck, which was past the part that fucked up yesterday.

[jorpho]

Whoops, sorry for not replying earlier. It's been a busy weekend and I forgot about this thread.

Anyway, vital knowledge: while you definitely need to have a folder mounted as drive C, you do not need to mount a folder before using imgmount. This is demonstrated in the video you linked to, actually.

If your .cue file is stored in d:\rgb2\rgbb.cue , then just type "imgmount d d:\rgb2\rgbb.cue" and do not bother mounting anything else on drive D beforehand. I don't know why you're mounting the .cue file as drive C and I doubt that will work very well; no programmer would ever have written an installer with that configuration in mind.

Thus, you can mount your "installed rallo drive" as drive C while having your .cue file imgmount'd on drive D.

[apachacha]

Sept 24, 2017 20:27:17 GMT -5 jorpho said:

Whoops, sorry for not replying earlier. It's been a busy weekend and I forgot about this thread.

Anyway, vital knowledge: while you definitely need to have a folder mounted as drive C, you do not need to mount a folder before using imgmount. This is demonstrated in the video you linked to, actually.

If your .cue file is stored in d:\rgb2\rgbb.cue , then just type "imgmount d d:\rgb2\rgbb.cue" and do not bother mounting anything else on drive D beforehand. I don't know why you're mounting the .cue file as drive C and I doubt that will work very well; no programmer would ever have written an installer with that configuration in mind.

Thus, you can mount your "installed rallo drive" as drive C while having your .cue file imgmount'd on drive D.

Thanks but I used a different version of the file and I eventually got it to work. But if I have any other issues with CD emulation I'll ask.