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Post by moran on Mar 12, 2018 18:40:05 GMT -5
“This movie is ready-made for people who want to clap at anything and everything they see.”
I don’t know why, but I love this line from i09’s review.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 20:50:36 GMT -5
Ha ha ha ha, awesome. This board needs a GIPHY feature to respond to posts like that.
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Post by jorpho on Mar 12, 2018 22:43:00 GMT -5
I read this review this morning, and it seems to have been edited since then to remove "spoilers". Seems there's a major departure from the book in that the Second Key is retrieved in some kind of interactive version of The Shining, complete with axe-dodging and threats from the zombie in a bathtub ... which actually sounds like it nails two of my biggest problems with the book: it's no longer an utterly boneheaded reference, as I mentioned back on page 1, and it also doesn't reduce the problem to being able to recite movie dialog line-by-line. After all, cartoons and video games have been doing the whole woo-look-we're-inside-the-movie thing for decades (...yep, of course it's on TVTropes), and that's fine, if a bit hackneyed – but I can't recall an occurrence in which people feel the best use of that opportunity is to just see how closely they can mimick all the dialog. (Pleasantville sure had fun with that one.) Anyway, I reckon it might well piss off fans of that particular movie instead, but that's a different problem.
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Post by moran on Mar 12, 2018 22:55:05 GMT -5
I keep taking into account that the movie rights were purchased before the book was published. So it almost works out the book is basically a first draft that has gone through multiple rewrites before being filmed. The movie just might be a more cohesive story.
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Post by GamerL on Mar 12, 2018 22:59:26 GMT -5
“This movie is ready-made for people who want to clap at anything and everything they see.” I don’t know why, but I love this line from i09’s review. aka people who still know how to have fun and aren't cynical burnouts? I'm sorry, but it seems like we're returning to the Bush era "everything sucks and life is miserable" attitude many people had in those days under the age of Trump, which is totally understandable, but I still like the more optimistic vibe of "geek chic" during the early Obama days, when the book was first published basically. Let's not let Trump grind us down and make us too cynical, I was quite glad to see the bone deep cynicism of the 00s mostly fade away over the years, but now it's roaring back with a vengeance. In fact this whole situation is really making me flashback to the reaction to Kingdom of The Crystal Skull a decade ago, which was a bad movie in fairness, but the way people acted like it killed their puppy was absurd.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 23:33:29 GMT -5
Maybe this thing you like is actually hot garbage? I grew up loving a California Raisins tape I got from Pizza Hut, man. It happens.
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Post by GamerL on Mar 13, 2018 0:32:00 GMT -5
Maybe this thing you like is actually hot garbage? I grew up loving a California Raisins tape I got from Pizza Hut, man. It happens. It remains to be seen about the movie, but I did enjoy the book when I read it in 2011. Now granted that was years ago, who knows what I would think after rereading it, but if I enjoyed it at least once then it wasn't terrible, but of course, that's just like, my opinion, man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 0:53:06 GMT -5
I have never known a thing to be As lovely as a librarian drinking pee
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Post by X-pert74 on Mar 13, 2018 0:58:18 GMT -5
I just noticed there's apparently an MP3 link there. Dare I ask what it is?
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Post by GamerL on Mar 13, 2018 2:42:26 GMT -5
I actually agree with him lol
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Post by moran on Mar 13, 2018 6:40:43 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but it seems like we're returning to the Bush era "everything sucks and life is miserable" attitude many people had in those days Life was like that well before Bush had any political hopes. I grew up in a time of grunge music, Kevin Smith movies, and prime Howard Stern. Bush had nothing to do with it. To be totally honest with you, I hate the whole “geek chic” thing that’s come about the last decade or so. And anyway, I didn’t mind the book. It was far from perfect, but it had some good moments. But the movie just does not look good. It hardly resembles the book that I read.
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Post by GamerL on Mar 13, 2018 7:30:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but it seems like we're returning to the Bush era "everything sucks and life is miserable" attitude many people had in those days Life was like that well before Bush had any political hopes. I grew up in a time of grunge music, Kevin Smith movies, and prime Howard Stern. Bush had nothing to do with it. To be totally honest with you, I hate the whole “geek chic” thing that’s come about the last decade or so. I don't love "geek chic", I think nerd culture is at its best when it's its own thing, the mainstreaming of nerd culture has had a lot of downsides, I think the peak period actually was the 00s, when nerd culture was gaining newfound popularity but was still not quite totally mainstream yet. But at the same time it's pretty cool to walk into a Target and find geeky items for sale, including Attack on Titan and Hatsune Miku posters, that's pretty wild and I can sympathize with why it went mainstream, in many ways the 00s was the bottom of the barrel for mainstream culture, think reality TV, think spring breakers and other party people who cared about nothing more than getting drunk, getting high and having sex, nerd culture offered a smarter alternative and it's not hard to see why people hopped aboard. (not that corporate America didn't quickly see the financial potential in it of course) But I have nothing but respect for the older generation of nerds who actually had to put up with bullying and shit because of their interests and there's something lame about people buying say a Captain America or Superman shirt not because it's something they grew up with or feel real passionate about but because it's what's "in" now, to say nothing of where Star Wars is at now (Star Wars has always been a little mainstream but the fact of how oversaturated it is now speaks to the downsides of mainstream nerd culture) A good satire of "geek chic" is the Red Letter Media "The Nerd Crew" videos.
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Post by alphex on Mar 13, 2018 8:24:44 GMT -5
I actually agree with him lol I don't, plus he's acting like it makes the actress less of an object because she conveys in one way or another "I'm 19 and into Battlestar Galactica" rather than "I'm a 19 year old cheerleader and only can think of dick". It's a fucking porn movie. They are used to get guys off. By their very definition, the people acting in them are means to a commodity, and by extent, part of that commodity. I doubt he'd want to know about the problems the Battlestar Galactica chick has with her tax income report, or her family troubles. He wants a nerdy chick to get him off. And it's fine, really. People who are personally invested in celebrtities and act like they "know" them because they've seen them on TV or their screen many times are creepy. But he's no better than somebody who's into different stuff.
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Post by kaoru on Mar 13, 2018 8:30:48 GMT -5
It certainly sounds like an epitaph written by a guy who thinks very high of himself because he's the nice guy that respects a woman, unlike those sport jock hillbillys, but later gets mad that he's putting many nicety-tokens into women yet they don't pay out in sex to him.
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Post by alphex on Mar 13, 2018 8:37:28 GMT -5
Psychologically speaking, the only one we truly treat like a non-object is ourselves. To bury that fact beyond a rubble of "I'm a gentleman! That doesn't apply to me!" is only gonna blind you in your actions and have for some "who could have known"-type bullshit. You gotta confront your limitations to combat their effects. You could start by treating people as an end, not as means, but... you know, that's not how modern dating or even capitalistic logic rolls. Which might be a clue that this problem lies deeper.
But in the meantime you could just treat people like people, in general - don't scoff at the cashier, don't tell porn stars (or anybody) to kill themselves on social media. But sex is sex IMO, and kinkshaming one way or another (Mr Ernest, by all means, have your significant other dress up as 7 of 9, or Marie Curie, if that makes the two of you happy and horny) is pretty low.
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