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Post by Amelia on Mar 30, 2018 22:30:03 GMT -5
I wasn't interested at first, but kinda want to see it now. I'm finally going to have free time again soon and a big flashy movie seems like a good way to celebrate.
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Post by GamerL on Mar 30, 2018 23:19:04 GMT -5
One thing that disappointed me are the anime references, you see the Swordfish from Cowboy Bebop in the background but no one flies it and the bebop itself never makes an appearance.
The girl Artemis does ride the bike from Akira, which is cool and a Gundam appears, but no Evas unlike the book.
But of course there's a lot of odd pop culture exclusions like for example Star Wars, someone mentions the Millennium Falcon but it's never seen and no one busts out a Lightsaber which you'd think would be the first weapon anyone would want to use in a virtual world, no Nintendo references either which is odd given the video game theme, however I did spot a Lancer from Gears of War.
Obviously stuff like that is constrained by what they could get the rights to show but that's what made the book a little more effective at getting accross what a pop culture smorgaboard Oasis is supposed to be, since you don't have those restrictions in a book.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Mar 31, 2018 3:01:32 GMT -5
One thing that disappointed me are the anime references, you see the Swordfish from Cowboy Bebop in the background but no one flies it and the bebop itself never makes an appearance. The girl Artemis does ride the bike from Akira, which is cool and a Gundam appears, but no Evas unlike the book. But of course there's a lot of odd pop culture exclusions like for example Star Wars, someone mentions the Millennium Falcon but it's never seen and no one busts out a Lightsaber which you'd think would be the first weapon anyone would want to use in a virtual world, no Nintendo references either which is odd given the video game theme, however I did spot a Lancer from Gears of War. Obviously stuff like that is constrained by what they could get the rights to show but that's what made the book a little more effective at getting accross what a pop culture smorgaboard Oasis is supposed to be, since you don't have those restrictions in a book. That's one of the biggest reasons why I'm not interested in seeing it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 13:39:34 GMT -5
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Apr 1, 2018 3:37:09 GMT -5
Is this in response to my post?
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Post by Sac (a.k.a Icaras) on Apr 1, 2018 10:29:28 GMT -5
I just saw the film myself today, and I really enjoyed it. I don't really see what the harm is in adding heaps of "Hey looks here's that thing you like!" moments.
It's a fun movie, and all the cameos and easter egg appearances just make it more fun. It's one of those films where you know what you're in for going in, and I don't think you need to get too worked up on the backstory.
Essentially I get the feeling this is a film that's easy to decide if you'll like it. Does the idea of a film based around 80s pop culture films/anime/video games get your heckles up? Yeah, you should probably avoid this, it's not for you.
On the other hand, does hearing about how you get small cameos by TV show vehicles, and video game characters and the like have you thinking "Wow, that's sounds cool!"...you're (like me) the target audience.
At the end of the day, what's wrong with just going along for the ride with a film? It's not like I ride a roller coaster and start to think "Now where's the art? The merit of that loop to loop?" ya know?
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Post by toei on Apr 1, 2018 11:13:31 GMT -5
Please don't. It's rambling, terribly written and struggles to make any cogent argument. A reviewer should collect his thoughts before setting them to paper, or if not, organize them into something coherent and readable in the second draft. He does his thinking on paper and leaves it as is for readers to put up with.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 15:01:16 GMT -5
Is this in response to my post? Ah no, sorry. That was in response to Griff. Please don't. It's rambling, terribly written and struggles to make any cogent argument. A reviewer should collect his thoughts before setting them to paper, or if not, organize them into something coherent and readable in the second draft. He does his thinking on paper and leaves it as is for readers to put up with. Not every review needs to be stiff and formal, but the points made in this one are all valid regardless of tone.
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Post by toei on Apr 1, 2018 16:58:17 GMT -5
I didn't just talk of tone. He seems not to know where he's going with his review, and it takes him forever getting there. It reads as if he's getting paid by the word and needed the money too badly to go back and edit it. I give it 2 out of 10 - avoid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 17:03:01 GMT -5
Really not the impression I got at all. To me, it came across as he knows the movie sucks, he knows the book sucks, and he expects the audience to also be aware of these things. The review can't be just, "Yep, it's as bad as we all knew it would be." But to each their own.
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on Apr 3, 2018 3:09:50 GMT -5
in the dark ages of 2011, people thought that the book is a bit silly but otherwise inoffensive and fun. in the wake of gamergate and Dolan Drumbfpfgfbvhfbfnfhnb, however, people have finally realized that the idea of unironically enjoying nerdy things is reactionary and fascist, and that a true progressive only enjoys eating ass and joking about putting political opponents in a Soviet forced labor camp. 'gamer saves the world' might have sounded innocent back then but nowadays we know that it's a coded call for creating the fourth reich.
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Post by GamerL on Apr 3, 2018 6:05:16 GMT -5
You joke, but I think it really does boil down to the fact that people are projecting their grievances with nerd culture from the last few years on a book and movie that have nothing to do with all that.
Honestly Ready Player One just seems downright quaint now, things really have changed drastically since 2011 and it's weird because that year feels like yesterday to me.
While we're on the topic of geek chic in general when did it really start and when did it start to end? I think you can trace the earliest rumblings to 2005 but I think it really exploded in 2008 with the release of The Dark Knight.
And obviously the beginning of the end was 2014 with Gamergate.
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Post by Discoalucard on Apr 3, 2018 9:07:30 GMT -5
While we're on the topic of geek chic in general when did it really start and when did it start to end? I think you can trace the earliest rumblings to 2005 but I think it really exploded in 2008 with the release of The Dark Knight. And obviously the beginning of the end was 2014 with Gamergate. Personally I'd say it started around 1999, when The Phantom Menace came out. Star Wars was definitely a geeky thing on the 90s, but the start of the prequel trilogy was a reminder that, hey, these are INCREDIBLY popular blockbuster movies that pretty much everyone has seen, not just AV club kids or whatever. It escalated with Lords of the Rings, since big budget fantasy was a huge gamble back then, continued with Harry Potter, which spawned its own YA boom (Hunger Games, Twilight) which is only now subsiding. Around that time you also had things like the manga boom and anime like Dragon Ball Z becoming much more popular. And then the PlayStation 2 getting into homes because it was also basically a cheap DVD player, so video games became more normalized. This also dovetails with the rise of the internet. I'd say the "fall" of it started with social media, when we began getting forced out of our bubbles and realize "oh some of us are really awful". But that doesn't mean it's "over" or anything, since you have people that grew up in the 80s and are taking that experience and putting in their own shows or music or video games or whatever.
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on Apr 3, 2018 13:50:20 GMT -5
You joke, but I think it really does boil down to the fact that people are projecting their grievances with nerd culture from the last few years on a book and movie that have nothing to do with all that. oh, I'm joking but I agree with you (the butt of the joke here is all the culture critics who have recently been radicalized beyond reason, if you excuse my excessive and arbitrary abuse of alliteration). but the thing people are projecting isn't really grievances, it's grievance (singular): that the nerd culture doesn't fit into their ideology. there's not much beyond that, and the fact that those people are now bringing up (and over-interpreting) some dumb poem about porn that the guy wrote like 20 years ago is a proof.
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Post by KGRAMR on Apr 3, 2018 13:56:38 GMT -5
One thing that disappointed me are the anime references, you see the Swordfish from Cowboy Bebop in the background but no one flies it and the bebop itself never makes an appearance. The girl Artemis does ride the bike from Akira, which is cool and a Gundam appears, but no Evas unlike the book. But of course there's a lot of odd pop culture exclusions like for example Star Wars, someone mentions the Millennium Falcon but it's never seen and no one busts out a Lightsaber which you'd think would be the first weapon anyone would want to use in a virtual world, no Nintendo references either which is odd given the video game theme, however I did spot a Lancer from Gears of War. Obviously stuff like that is constrained by what they could get the rights to show but that's what made the book a little more effective at getting accross what a pop culture smorgaboard Oasis is supposed to be, since you don't have those restrictions in a book. Oh man, it sucks to hear that the EVAs, unlike the book, do not appear in the movie, which sucks 'cause i love me so Evangelion stuff Oh well, might as well wait to see it on TV in 3-4 months or so...
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