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Post by backgroundnoise on Dec 30, 2017 15:42:21 GMT -5
I have allowed public opinion and the social stigma surrounding "sex sells" type of characters to influence my interests. As a result I, for the longest time, have missed out on Tomb Raider: Anniversary, which ended up being the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time sequel that I always wanted, at least as far as the mechanics are concerned.
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Post by toei on Dec 30, 2017 15:56:14 GMT -5
I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A VIDEOGAME
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Post by nerdybat on Dec 31, 2017 6:00:40 GMT -5
I have allowed public opinion and the social stigma surrounding "sex sells" type of characters to influence my interests. As a result I, for the longest time, have missed out on Tomb Raider: Anniversary, which ended up being the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time sequel that I always wanted, at least as far as the mechanics are concerned. I still think publishers of Tomb Raider games seriously misrepresented Lara Croft back in the day for the sake of boosting sales. In all three canons (original and two reboots), she's actually a pretty interesting and well-written character with a good amount of both flaws and redeeming qualities in her personality, and not just a "booby bimbo with guns", as some ads and articles made her out to be. As far as "strong female protagonists" go, she's probably one of the better examples, and while I don't really like the recent reboot, I think it was a smart decision on side of developers to put remaining fanservice aside completely and double down on her "anti-hero survivor" part of personality instead.
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Post by Bumpyroad on Dec 31, 2017 6:59:19 GMT -5
I have allowed public opinion and the social stigma surrounding "sex sells" type of characters to influence my interests. As a result I, for the longest time, have missed out on Tomb Raider: Anniversary, which ended up being the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time sequel that I always wanted, at least as far as the mechanics are concerned. I think it was a smart decision on side of developers to put remaining fanservice aside completely and double down on her "anti-hero survivor" part of personality instead. I think Uncharted played a part of it. Nathan was well received after all.
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Dec 31, 2017 21:53:14 GMT -5
I love to read/watch reviews of bad games/movies/comics/anime/whatever. I really love when something is perfectly so bad it's good. Yea I'm into that, too. Sometimes you find a glorious trainwreck. I've played through some ecchi visual novels and a couple of outright h-games. MMO's scare and confuse me.
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Post by kaoru on Jan 2, 2018 9:32:42 GMT -5
It is the year of 2018 and I still have not played a single game of Silent Hill or Metal Gear Solid myself.
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Post by X-pert74 on Jan 2, 2018 17:39:15 GMT -5
It is the year of 2018 and I still have not played a single game of Silent Hill or Metal Gear Solid myself. It's never too late to start either series! I played Silent Hill 1 and 2 for the first time just last year myself, and really loved them both.
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Post by GamerL on Jan 2, 2018 17:57:09 GMT -5
It is the year of 2018 and I still have not played a single game of Silent Hill or Metal Gear Solid myself. Damn, you really need to get on that this year. I would recommend with both series you play the first three and then err on the side of caution from there on out, not saying there aren't others worth playing but definitely take the time to play Metal Gear Solid 1-3 and Silent Hill 1-3 if nothing else. What makes things a little complicated though is accessibility, for Metal Gear all you need is the HD collection, however avoid the Silent Hill HD collection, get your hands on the PS2 originals if you can. In fact it pains me in the case of Silent Hill because Silent Hill 2 is a game everyone should play but it's not readily available anymore, but seriously though, avoid the HD collection, it's hot garbage, yet another reason to hate Konami. Best version of Silent Hill 2 is the PS2 Director's Cut, but I believe it's on the pricey side nowadays.
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Post by kaoru on Jan 2, 2018 18:10:17 GMT -5
I might need to clarify that these games are not completely foreign to me, I just haven't played them myself. I'm pretty sure I've watched friends and fuck buddies play through every Silent Hill at some point or another over the years. I also experienced bits and pieces of Metal Gear Solids, but usually turn my brain off and start browsing the internet once Kojima jumps the shark on stupidity in these about recessive genes or people becoming shizo through attaching other peoples hands to themselves or such nonsense. I wanna say I've experienced most if not all of Revengeance tho, which is a treat, because it's self aware about being dumb thanks to Platinum trying to out-Kojima the main ones. Rocking fucking OST too!
I do plan on playing Shattered Memories since forever tho, just never quite gotten there. The psychological profiling in it is probaly more smoke and mirrors than anything, but it's still a neat idea that could at least lead to a somewhat diffrent play through. And I have played the first MSX Metal Gear, so maybe Solid Snake and then the Solids could follow eventually.
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Post by GamerL on Jan 2, 2018 18:26:11 GMT -5
I might need to clarify that these games are not completely foreign to me, I just haven't played them myself. I'm pretty sure I've watched friends and fuck buddies play through every Silent Hill at some point or another over the years. I also experienced bits and pieces of Metal Gear Solids, but usually turn my brain off and start browsing the internet once Kojima jumps the shark on stupidity in these about recessive genes or people becoming shizo through attaching other peoples hands to themselves or such nonsense. I wanna say I've experienced most if not all of Revengeance tho, which is a treat, because it's self aware about being dumb thanks to Platinum trying to out-Kojima the main ones. Rocking fucking OST too! I do plan on playing Shattered Memories since forever tho, just never quite gotten there. The psychological profiling in it is probaly more smoke and mirrors than anything, but it's still a neat idea that could at least lead to a somewhat diffrent play through. And I have played the first MSX Metal Gear, so maybe Solid Snake and then the Solids could follow eventually. Shattered Memories is the best Silent Hill post 3 and I would say 4 is still worth playing at least once, but avoid everything else with Silent Hill in the title like the plague though. Also, think of Metal Gear as basically Tom Clancy flavored anime, yeah, there is some ridiculous shit in there, but that's what makes it fun and makes it unique.
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Post by JoeQ on Jan 2, 2018 18:40:36 GMT -5
Yes, accept all the dumb anime BS instead of scoffing and making snide remarks. Rejoice and revel in it, they wouldn't be Metal Gear otherwise. I have high hopes for Death Stranding too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 20:02:20 GMT -5
It's one thing to revel in the absurdity of Metal Gear. That's all in good fun. It's the people who bend over backwards like a contortionist to try to justify all of the bad decisions that annoy me. Maybe just accept that Kojima is a hack, and not the gifted auteur he tries to sell himself as being.
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Post by GamerL on Jan 3, 2018 20:41:34 GMT -5
It's one thing to revel in the absurdity of Metal Gear. That's all in good fun. It's the people who bend over backwards like a contortionist to try to justify all of the bad decisions that annoy me. Maybe just accept that Kojima is a hack, and not the gifted auteur he tries to sell himself as being. I wouldn't call him a hack, but I do think people do him a disservice by calling him a "genius" "genius" is a big word and I think Kojima is best described as a guy who can spin a really compelling yarn and mess with your head a bit while he's at it, as I said before it's best to remember that Metal Gear is basically anime crossed with Hollywood action movies, which is what Kojima has been doing since the start of his career with games like Snatcher and Policenauts. Not that the guy isn't smart though and the games don't occasionally tap into something thought provoking, MGS2's message about the damaging effects the internet could have on society is really, really prescient.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 21:06:57 GMT -5
That's kind of what I mean. It's easy to see how prescient that plotpoint was now, but it didn't mean that back then, and he definitely couldn't have anticipated how things were going to turn out. It's really just another piece of the background, like the PMCs in MGS4.
MGS1 made a really great point about the continued threat of nuclear weapons, but that felt more legitimate due to Japan's unique role in the history of nuclear warfare. Something tells me that Kojima ended up feeling like he HAD to make some big point about a major world issue with MGS2 and MGS4, but the follow-through was lacking in both. It's what happens when a person starts to believe their own hype.
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Post by kaoru on Jan 3, 2018 21:13:27 GMT -5
When I compare Snatcher to Policenauts, I get the feeling he's way better when he has constraints put on him, both technically and via someone who can put their foot down and tell him to reel it in. Snatcher is so much tighter, while Policenauts vomits unnecessary words at you whenever it can. Which might not be too reaching, because it seems to be that way with many people who seemingly did better things before they got too much clout. Maybe if someone actually could have made him stay on a deadline and learn some priorities, MGSV would have had an ending, instead of wasting time on funsies like making the horses shit on occasion.
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