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Post by jorpho on Mar 31, 2018 20:16:31 GMT -5
I found myself idly pondering Club Mario the other day. Recall that the Super Mario Bros Super Show used to bookend the Super Mario Bros and Zelda cartoons with live-action segments featuring Lou Albano et al.; Club Mario was the rather appalling substitute brought in to replace those live-action segments. So I found this page, and it strikes me that apparently there is "ONE person who thought to tape Club Mario before it disappeared forever, AND thought to digitize the episodes later" and there are "rumors that its masters were trashed". On the one hand, it is sad that something is lost to history – but on the other hand, this was utter cack and perhaps it is better if it is forgotten. (To be sure: I endured the whole thing waiting for them to say something about video games. It. Never. Happened.) I find myself dwelling on this as my family is about to purge a whole bunch of old VHS tapes, and while there's unlikely to be anything in there that's not conveniently available in much better digital form already, there's still hours of commercials and station IDs and news updates and so on. But I'm thinking anyone completely devoted to the preservation of such things probably already has stacks and stacks of VHS tapes sitting around already which will probably go uncatalogued simply due to the magnitude of the task involved. And moreover, even if such things are catalogued, it seems quite likely that no one will ever care because so much of it is crap. And yet – what if there's something in there that's the last surviving copy, to be lost forever? It troubles me.
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Post by Jungyin on Apr 1, 2018 13:21:15 GMT -5
Think even crappy things are worth preserving if it's not too much trouble. Because who knows? It may become a cultural coprolite that can tell a future generation something worthwhile a century later.
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Post by moran on Apr 1, 2018 18:11:16 GMT -5
100% worth preserving. There are lots of people who preserve such crap, but it makes for great viewing.
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Post by Amelia on Apr 1, 2018 18:46:18 GMT -5
I agree. Even though it's unrealistic to archive every bit of ephemeral pop culture, it would be great for future generations if we preserved as much 20th century media as possible. Just think how interesting it would be if we had all the books and art from previous centuries. Even the garbage would have historical value.
It gets interesting thinking about preservation of newly created things on the internet though. Now that everybody can create and publish their work online, preserving it all is like saving every scribble made. As worthless as most of them seem now, I still think it would be nice if all the videos on Youtube could be archived for hundreds of years in the future.
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Post by acidonia on Apr 2, 2018 21:07:27 GMT -5
Not a waste at all. Ive been uploading all the TV AD'S ive found on old VHS to youtube shame I dunno if I can find the tape I had that was nothing but Bumpers and AD'S I recorded when bored from 1998 to 2000. Im glad I found the old Men In Black VHS promo indents which featured a Unique alien Puppet that was not in the movie but look movie quality produced.
Looking though these VHS tapes helped the Internet know what was the Difference from the movie Hurray for Betty Boop over the Later VHS version called Betty Boop for President A Max Fleischer Musical in Color!. Alot thought the later version much easier to find version was missing alot of content. But the only differences are. They changed the Music and images in the Credits and removed one cartoon that was left in black and white unlike the rest of the film and was 100% unchanged to the 1930's version and a title card before said cartoon. I figure all this out because the old taped off TV VHS copy I have from the 80's was the Hurray for Betty Boop version.
Other day I uploaded last few Minutes of a 1989 Kids TV Episode called Round the Bend the Only Uploads of it anywhere where hosted on the creators website which are also on youtube. But Series 1 Episode 6 is missing like 5 Minutes of footage and he edited a new ending which confused alot including myself who watched that show alot.
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Post by Maciej Miszczyk on Apr 3, 2018 3:03:58 GMT -5
if someone thought it should be preserved, I'm not going to question that - it's better to preserve too much than too little, and I don't think that it's a zero-sum game with one thing being archived preventing the archiving of another thing. in time, the things that people don't really care about will be forgotten until they degrade, but those things are recent enough that they didn't even had a chance to be forgotten, they're only threatened due to the imperfection of storage methods.
BTW, that makes me think about long-term archival. I have a plenty of crap on my computers, and some of that crap I'd rather keep for a long time. what would be the best way of doing that? hard disks break easily, CDs and DVDs you can buy will not hold very long and cloud storage is basically offloading it to someone else and hoping for the best. should I think of buying a streamer and a lot of tapes?
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Post by edmonddantes on Apr 8, 2018 4:12:21 GMT -5
I'm always happy when I find old VHSes of saturday morning cartoons. I try to immediately back them up to DVD (and from there, digitize them as MKVs on my PC).
DVD releases of shows are great but they're not nostalgic the way they are when you watch them with old commercials and everything. Besides, people need to remember when Batman fought for Diet Coke.
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Post by moran on Apr 13, 2018 22:26:43 GMT -5
Dinosaur Dracula(previously X-Entertainment) is a great example of this. There’s just something fascinating about seeing the best of the worst about us
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Post by GamerL on Apr 13, 2018 22:28:40 GMT -5
Dinosaur Dracula(previously X-Entertainment) is a great example of this. There’s just something fascinating about seeing the best of the worst about us hey, I forgot about Dinosaur Dracula, thanks for reminding me.
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Post by moran on Apr 13, 2018 22:59:20 GMT -5
Your’re welcome. Such a great site and seemingly cool guy.
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Post by eatersthemanfool on Jul 28, 2018 3:15:45 GMT -5
I really like the podcast he and his friend do together. The Purple Stuff Podcast.
Wish it updated more often, though.
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