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Post by toei on Oct 2, 2018 2:51:01 GMT -5
Nigel from Landstalker is a playable character in Time Stalkers, as is Lady, the main character from Lady Stalker, along with Pyra from Shining in the Darkness. In Japan it was called Climax Landers, implying that it's meant to be a Climax crossover game rather than a Stalker entry. It's a decent dungeon crawler that got a bad rap. Everybody seemed to be so hung up on the fact that your level reset to 1 whenever you leave a dungeon, because I guess they'd never heard of a roguelike. It's also unfair to say "no one cares about Lady Stalker" when it was never released here (as phediuk did). I can tell you there are plenty of people waiting for the fan translation to drop.
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Post by edmonddantes on Oct 2, 2018 3:01:20 GMT -5
Like I said... my problem was I just didn't know they were related at all.
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Post by Bumpyroad on Oct 2, 2018 4:36:53 GMT -5
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Post by kaoru on Oct 3, 2018 13:41:19 GMT -5
Not that part 2 is bad, it just does get pretty long, It's fine to like 1 more, and it is shorter sure, but I honestly don't understand 2 getting "pretty long". For an RPG, it's a breezer. A first time around doing everything is probably about 30 hours, and knowing how to get them by now, a replay even with all 108 stars is usually done in 20 or less for me, even shorter if you don't care about the massive cast.
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Post by alphex on Oct 3, 2018 15:06:15 GMT -5
Duke Nukem -- Duke 3D is landmark game in many ways, a blockbuster hit and a big step forward for interactivity in first-person action games. The first two games are okay side-scrollers, but no one would put them above 3D; as for Forever and the various spinoffs? Garbage. Manhattan Project rules. Rocket Knight Adventures -- The original Genesis game rocks. The pair of games called "Sparkster" are okay but both clearly a step down from the original, and the less said about the XBLA Rocket Knight, the better. Lots of people prefer the SNES game. 3 is generally considered superior by fans though. Is it though? 3 sounds better on paper but after playing both multiple times, I think I like SoM better and I've seen that opinion quite a bit more in recent years. It has a run button that doesn't punish you for using it. It's a much more enjoyable experience. Is it safe to say Street Fighter II regardless of specific version? Lolno. ESPECIALLY not "regardless of specific version". Super Turbo, Third Strike, Alpha 3 - those games were big in tournaments. But as far as being "fun" to a casual player goes - Super Turbo is super stiff these days; I don't see anybody who isn't a fan from back in the day prefering the feeling (not the mechanical balance!) of that one over SFA3. As for my picks: -Quest for Glory 4 -KOF98 and 2002 -Bubsy 1 -DKC2 (original trilogy) -King's Quest 6 -TMNT4: Turtles in Time
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Post by dsparil on Oct 3, 2018 15:52:00 GMT -5
I'm not really going to argue the point too much, but as I said in it's day, Street Fighter II collectively was way more popular than any other entry would be. It's definitely not the most popular at this exact moment competitively, but it's the third most profitable game off all time. II was a legitimate mania. The competitive scene is such a small segment of the total audience that you can't use it to make any larger conclusions.
There are 4 cabinets I still see in various places: Ms. Pac-Man in cocktail format, House of the Dead, Puzzle Bobble (that's actually surprising) and some flavor of SFII.
Edit: Revenue isn't a great proxy for popularity necessarily, but we're talking about a factor of 20 more than the next (IV). II is unquestionably "better regarded" by a mainstream audience. Regard just means to have a connection to something and so many people have a positive relationship to II. The opinion of a "gamer" or "competitive" audience means squat in this situation.
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Post by alphex on Oct 3, 2018 20:17:35 GMT -5
But the thread is not "games where one part was much more succesful than any other".
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Post by dsparil on Oct 3, 2018 21:01:20 GMT -5
The very first line is "This thread is for those series where one installment is vastly more popular and well-regarded than the rest."
SFII is vastly more popular than any other installment. The entire population of people that have ever played any Street Fighter is mostly going to be made up of people that have only played some version of II by a wide margin. This is why I'm saying it's easily the best regarded simply because most people would only have an opinion on II and none on the others. If you polled random people on the street about their SF memories, I would be surprised if other ones even came up. SFII was mainstream on level that the others never will be and frankly can't. The scale is just so wildly different.
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Post by ResidentTsundere on Oct 4, 2018 2:25:20 GMT -5
Everyone seems to prefer the first four Silent Hill games, especially 2.
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Post by edmonddantes on Oct 4, 2018 13:32:40 GMT -5
On the fighting game front, I dunno if this changed recently but for a long time it seemed like most people only liked the first three Mortal Kombat games (I seem to remember MK2 especially being a big deal). From what I've seen, people either don't know the series continued past UMK3, or dislike the later games anyway... up until the recent revival, which I've heard was better than it had any right to be.
Also, reminded by other topics I've been in...
People don't tend to know there were other Dune games besides Dune II: The Building of Arrakis/the Battle for a Dynasty.
I often hear people joke "Wait, there were Warcraft games before World of Warcraft?" That joke particularly gets on my nerves.
A similar joke used to happen for Ultima Online, but I think the Spoony One's retrospective turned the tides a little as more people seem aware of the single-player RPGs than the MMO (it helps that the MMO is basically dead AFAIK)
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Post by Bumpyroad on Oct 4, 2018 15:37:42 GMT -5
I'd like to throw a Resident Evil title in here quickly, but always face a dilemma: RE Remake or RE 4?
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Post by phediuk on Oct 4, 2018 18:36:38 GMT -5
I'd like to throw a Resident Evil title in here quickly, but always face a dilemma: RE Remake or RE 4? I would've said RE2.
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Post by toei on Oct 4, 2018 18:45:49 GMT -5
Yeah, there is more than one beloved entry, so I don't think it's a good candidate for this thread.
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Post by Bumpyroad on Oct 5, 2018 0:42:05 GMT -5
I'd like to throw a Resident Evil title in here quickly, but always face a dilemma: RE Remake or RE 4? I would've said RE2. Well, it's too limited to January 25, 2019
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Post by spanky on Oct 5, 2018 7:43:38 GMT -5
I'm really stretching the definition of "better-regarded" here, but...I've seen lots of people say the first Bubsy game is a decent if uninspired mascot platformer, but all the other games in the series (II, the Jag game, 3D and the new one) are regarded as straight trash.
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