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Post by surnshurn on Jan 27, 2019 21:50:54 GMT -5
this is a problem that's best broken down into pieces:
*(to be fair, this subject is way outside of my sphere of technical knowledge)
first - you need to determine the context of what feminism is, before you can really begin to define it. Is it a social construct? A pendulum effect? A badge to wear on one's sleeve?
i'm pretty sure there is a lot of literature on the subject, and i really wouldn't know where to start on this subject
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Post by Snake on Jan 28, 2019 14:52:39 GMT -5
So, was just talking to a friend and another question came up, which... okay, in actuality this is more of a logic problem and doesn't really fit the nature of this topic, but at the same time it felt dumb to create a new topic just for this. The situation is this: In essence, how would you explain feminism to a creature from an asexual culture that had no concept of "male" and "female?" Technically the original question that came up during the chat was "how would you explain feminism to a baby if it didn't first know what the traditional ideas of gender even were?" But then we realized that the question becomes kinda silly at the "baby" part. But yeah, my head is exploding trying to work this one out. Talk about 2 different scenarios. Babies and kids should just be allowed to be themselves, and play; not stressing out over societal and cultural constructs. A lot can happen in a decade. By the time a child's brain is developed enough for cognitive and philosophical thinking, maybe we'll be way past having a battle of the sexes. We will have unchallenged quality of opportunity, courtesy, for both male and female, in complimentary harmony. To an asexual alien? Isn't it enough to say that true feminism is for equality of opportunity, equality of choices, and respect for women?
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Post by edmonddantes on Jan 29, 2019 13:46:55 GMT -5
Like I said, its a logic problem--the alien in question does not even know what "men" and "women" are because its society has neither.
My best hope in that situation is just to find something analogous that it would understand and use that as a baseline. I would probably try my best to leave out social/political issues because that's just adding more things the alien has no context for that I would need to explain and would just confuse the poor thing. Like with learning math... you don't jump straight to negative numbers and fractions before teaching addition and subtraction.
I agree about the baby thing--like I said, the original question became silly the minute someone said "baby," not just because kids really shouldn't have politics foisted upon them but also because hell, they would probably not understand anything that doesn't begin and end with "baby want bottle" and "goo goo gah gah."
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Post by jorpho on Jan 30, 2019 1:14:35 GMT -5
Like I said, its a logic problem--the alien in question does not even know what "men" and "women" are because its society has neither. Well, you'd have to start there, and explain that over the course of human civilization, patterns that at one time arose out of a need for basic survival became a burdensome hindrance. And then someone would say you were wrong.
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