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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 24, 2020 13:47:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 15:09:50 GMT -5
The design is very nice, but what is the issue with resolution? Is it a software restriction or something else?
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 24, 2020 15:34:28 GMT -5
Yeah the tool, "word art", makes you pay for HD pictures. You *can* link directly to what you made though and then it's interactive so you can zoom in on anything you hover over, like so: wordart.com/vbotc00xqtbz/word-art
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 15:57:14 GMT -5
Oh, that's much better. I was going to offer to sort the resolution for you but no need with that zoom feature.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 24, 2020 16:02:32 GMT -5
Cool, I can link directly to those in the future. I didn't save the previous two though, apparently you have to sign up for it.
I believe there is some randomization to phrases with the same weight, despite me setting it to sizing by weight. That's why some phrases are very small despite having the same exposure as some others. If anyone is wondering.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 25, 2020 8:17:07 GMT -5
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 25, 2020 13:27:23 GMT -5
Updated the OP with Europe pics.
Some observations: -Individual developers are more frequently highlighted in the west, and perhaps more in EU than in the US -US-based site data means the game list is skewed -EU didn't make anything still considered good until 1983 -Atari and other NA companies really dropped the ball after the US crash -Spectrum was pretty much EU exclusive and I assume CPC as well -Amiga has some US presence in developers such as Cinemaware but not so much in terms of consumer base -Cross region cooperation goes far back
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 26, 2020 6:05:02 GMT -5
1980s stats (2 or more instances only): 1980-1989 NA: Systems: Atari 2600 - 99 Commodore 64 - 62 PC DOS - 54 Apple II - 43 Intellivision - 31 ARC - 30 Amiga - 22 Atari ST - 15 Colecovision - 14 PC Booter - 9 Atari 8-Bit - 8 Macintosh - 7 Sega Master System - 6 Atari 5200 - 4 Nintendo Enterainment System - 4
Devs: Atari - 50 Activision - 26 Mattel - 18 Sierra - 18 Infocom - 13 Imagic - 9 Coleco - 9 Epyx - 9 APh/APh Technological Consulting - 8 Bally Midway - 8 Namco - 7 Interplay - 7 Cinemaware - 6 Midway - 6 Lucasfilm Games - 6 MicroProse/MPS Labs/MicroStyle - 6 Origin - 6 Parker Brothers - 5 Nintendo - 5 ICOM Simulations/Rabid Entertainment - 4 Sid Meier - 4 Williams - 4 James Wickstead Design Associates - 4 David Crane - 4 Brøderbund Software/Broderbund - 4 New World Computing - 3 Evryware - 3 Centuri - 3 Sir-tech Software - 3 Muse Software - 3 Ozark Softscape/Danielle Bunten - 3 First Star Software - 3 Strategic Simulations - 3 FTL Games - 3 Access Software - 3 Gottlieb - 2 Amstar/Amstar Electronics - 2 Sirius Software - 2 Exidy - 2 Dave Nutting Associates - 2 Konami - 2 Data East - 2 Taito - 2 Artech Studios - 2 Synapse Software Corporation - 2 Datasoft - 2 Utopia Software - 2 Realtime Associates - 2 Binary Systems - 2 Electronic Arts - 2 Distinctive Software - 2 Sega - 2 Dynamix - 2
Games: Centipede - 3 Gorf - 3 Berzerk - 2 Missile Command - 2 Video Pinball - 2 Astrosmash/Astroblast - 2 Atlantis - 2 Carnival- 2 Commando Raid - 2 Cosmic Ark - 2 Ms. Pac-Man - 2 Dig Dug - 2 Donkey Kong - 2 Donkey Kong Junior - 2 Pac-Man - 2 Phoenix - 2 Asteroids - 2 BC's Quest for Tires - 2 Battlezone - 2 Joust - 2 Pitfall II: Lost Caverns - 2 Q*bert - 2 Montezuma's Revenge - 2 Spy vs Spy - 2 Deja Vu - 2 Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? - 2 Rampage - 2 The King of Chicago - 2 Shadowgate - 2
1980-1989 JP: Systems: Nintendo Entertainment System/Famicom - 236 Arcade - 110 Sega Master System/Mark III - 55 MSX - 31 Famicom Disk System - 23 Sega Mega Drive/Genesis - 20 PC-88 - 18 PC Engine/TurboGrax-16 - 12 Sharp X68000 - 11 Game Boy - 9 Atari 2600 - 7 Sharp X1 - 6 PC-98 - 5 Colecovision - 3 FM-7 - 3 SG-1000 - 3 Intellivision - 2
Developers: Sega - 77 Konami - 64 Namco - 41 Nintendo - 38 Capcom - 29 Taito - 22 Hudson - 16 Compile - 14 Data East - 11 Tose/TOSE - 11 Nihon Falcom - 10 Technos Japan/Technos - 10 Tecmo/Tehkan - 10 HAL/HAL Labs - 9 Irem - 9 SNK - 8 Atlus - 7 Square/SquareSoft - 5 Sunsoft/Sun Electronics/Sun - 5 Game Arts - 4 Chunsoft - 4 Now Production - 4 Westone/Escape - 4 Kemco - 3 Broderbund - 3 Culture Brain - 3 Game Studio - 3 Jaleco - 3 T&E Soft - 3 Tengen - 3 Toaplan - 3 UPL - 3 Vic Tokai - 2 DB-SOFT - 2 ASCII - 2 Arsys Software - 2 Fun Project - 2 Epyx - 2 TAD Corporation/Tad - 2 Tamtex - 2 TechnoSoft - 2 Hot-B - 2 Human Entertainment - 2 Infinity - 2 Intelligent Systems - 2 Nihon Micom Kaihatsu - 2 KOEI/Koei - 2 Origin - 2 Sanritsu - 2 Sir-Tech - 2
Games: Frogger - 3 Pac-Man - 3 Xevious - 3 1942 - 2 Bubble Bobble - 2 BurgerTime - 2 Choplifter - 2 Commando - 2 Dig Dug - 2 Double Dragon - 2 Dragon Slayer 2: Xanadu/Dragon Slayer II: Xanadu - 2 Elevator Action - 2 Fantasy Zone - 2 Forgotten Worlds - 2 Galaga '88 - 2 Galaga - 2 Ghosts 'n Goblins - 2 Ghouls 'n Ghosts - 2 Gradius/Nemesis - 2 Gyruss - 2 Kung Fu/Kung-Fu Master - 2 Mappy - 2 Operation Wolf - 2 Pooyan - 2 Popeye - 2 R-Type - 2 Rainbow Islands - 2 Solomon's Key/Solomon no Kagi: Oujo Rihita no Namida - 2 Space Harrier - 2 Space Invaders - 2 Super Dodge Ball/Super Dodgeball - 2 The Tower of Druaga - 2 Track & Field - 2 Wonder Boy in Monster Land/Super Wonder Boy: Monster World/Bikkuriman World - 2 Youkai Douchuuki/Shadow Land/Shadowland - 2 Ys/Ys: Ancient Ys Vanished/Ys: The Vanished Omens - 2
1983-1989 EU: Systems: Commodore 64 - 37 ZX Spectrum - 22 Amiga - 16 Atari ST - 10 PC DOS - 7 BBC Micro - 6 NES - 5 Amstrad CPC - 5 MSX - 2
Devs: Ashby Computers and Graphics/Ultimate Play the Game - 5 Palace Software - 4 Rare - 4 System 3 - 4 Oliver Twins - 3 Infogrames - 3 Major Developments - 3 Sensible Software - 2 Superior Software - 2 The Assembly Line - 2 Ocean - 2 Graftgold - 2 David Braben - 2 Cope-com - 2 CRL Group PLC - 2 Chris Stamper - 2 Clive Townsend - 2 Argonaut - 2 Mr Chip Software/Magnetic Fields - 2 The Bitmap Brothers - 2 Jeremy Smith - 2
Games: Hostage: Rescue Mission/Hostages/Rescue: The Embassy Mission - 2
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Post by condroid on Dec 26, 2020 21:27:17 GMT -5
You could mitigate some of the bias by adding lists from sites like atarimania, lemon64, lemonamiga, etc. which have similar rating systems.
A couple of corrections:
Europe: Midwinter Midwinter 2 Stunt Car Racer Formula One Grand Prix Hunter Supremacy Deuteros
North America: Wizardry VII
Japan: Dungeon Master (SNES version)
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 27, 2020 5:08:34 GMT -5
Ok can you link to your sources for those? Besides Wizardry 7, that was a mistake.
I had the dos port of Stunt Car Racer pegged as european but not the original version IIRC. Edit: Oh, Microstyle is the UK branch of microprose.
Yes I have filled out the lists with lemon64/amiga as additional sources before, though if you have more suggestions I can look at them.
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Post by teroknor on Dec 27, 2020 5:40:24 GMT -5
Not my corrections, but let me buzz in. Midwinter/Midwinter 2 are by Mike Singleton/Maelstrom Games. Stunt Car Racer and Formula One Grand prix are by Geoff Crammond. Hunter is by Paul Holmes and I find it highly doubtable that it was even released in the US. Overlord/Supremacy is by David Perry and Nick Bruty, done while they still worked for Probe (i.e. before they moved to the US to work for Virgin). Deuteros is the sequel to Millennium 2.2. and is also by Ian Bird. For Dungeon Master, check the SNES credits at Moby.
I also have another one: 1988, The Colony, you have Mac/DOS as platforms, but Icon Design as developer. Those are two different titles: "The Colony" for Mac and DOS is a US game, and "Colony" for Spectrum/CPC/C64 etc. is a UK game. The one of interest is probably the American Mac game.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 27, 2020 5:45:05 GMT -5
Regarding Maelstrom: All I can find is a pic noting mike singleton as being in San Diego when it was taken here.
Regarding Hunter well I was surprised about Cinemaware being american too (and my only source is kim justice here). So I ask for sources.
There seems to be a connection to Nihon Falcom there, regarding Dungeon Master. Or Victor, which ported it to X68K.
I edited the Colony entry, both games are of interest.
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Post by teroknor on Dec 27, 2020 6:30:41 GMT -5
Well, Mike Singleton was a UK games legend, largely due to The Lords of Midnight, and Maelstrom was one of his UK companies. Check out the Midwinter preview in Zero magazine #3, available at archive.org. Looks like Maelstrom was based in Liverpool.
For Hunter, check out this article, which describes it as growing out of an unreleased game Holmes did for CRL and mentions Activision's UK producer Colin Fuidge.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Dec 27, 2020 6:52:59 GMT -5
Ok well I see now the wikipedia article says he's british, you could've just linked to that.
The best source I can find for Holmes is that he did Bomb Jack 2 for Elite Systems, which was british. Colin Fuidge seems mentioned in the Perfect Entertainment wikipedia article, assuming it's the same guy.
Hunter ended up in NA because wikipedia mentions Activision as the developer (I see now that mobygames further defines it as Activision UK). There are probably other examples like this where the devs are poorly documented.
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Post by teroknor on Dec 27, 2020 7:55:46 GMT -5
Looks like Singleton did work in the US for some time (at The Collective), so the assumption was not entirely off. Looking at some more games: Moonstone is interesting. While it was only released in Europe, it looks like the developers were Canadian. See Rob Andersons's LinkedIn and this interview.
Also, Pipe Dream/Pipe Mania is a UK/US cooperation, The Assembly Line and Lucasfilm Games, though I'm not sure about the Game Boy version in particular.
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