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Post by dsparil on Oct 14, 2021 6:44:16 GMT -5
Flashback: The Quest for Identity (or PC ver.) Darius Gaiden G Darius/G-Darius Panzer Dragoon Zwei Flashback did have a rerelease a few years ago with new audio but also with a required graphical filter that looks awful. Darius Gaiden and G-Darius have had PS4 and Switch releases as part of different collections, but they cost way too much and don't have added features. A PDZ remake was announced at the same time as the original. It was supposed to come out this year, but seems to have been pushed back. My guess is Orta after that due to the significantly increased scope of Saga, but maybe they'll still go in order.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 7:13:21 GMT -5
There's G-Darius HD which was released individually for Switch and PS4 and is getting a retail release next week. It's still £25 for one game, but at least there's no need to invest in an overpriced collection. I was thinking about picking it up but I'm not sure if it's a good port. Can't find anything about a PC version though which is always bewildering to me. Have companies really not caught on yet that their audience is on PC for small and old games and not PlayStation? www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch/G-DARIUS-HD-2036010.htmlEven though it didn't get the VB ports or much support at all really I have to say I'm really impressed with Nintendo's commitment to Labo. By the time the release of the VR pack came around it was long since obvious the initiative was a non-starter, yet they put it out anyway. Of course R&D and software development costs will have racked up by then but they could have cut their losses. I'm sure it's rewarding to their staff who worked on it to see the company support their work to see it to the end regardless.
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Post by dsparil on Oct 14, 2021 9:07:48 GMT -5
It's a port by M2 so it should be good. What's so messed up though is that it actually costs a little more to get G-Darius and Dariusburst digitally and you technically get less since the Switch compilation also include Sagaia for GB
With Labo, I think it was a mistake to not start out with the VR set or at least not have partnerships set up to integrate the initial ToyCon sets where it made sense. I picked up the Variety Kit on hopes that some parts would get wider use, but that never happened. There's a few stray uses here and there e.g. Deemo has some limited support for the piano, but that's it. VR and a VB collection maybe with a reimagining of the canceled StarFox port would have definitely added some more sales.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Oct 14, 2021 10:04:16 GMT -5
3DS was our last true shot at VB ports. Nintendo could still colorize and port Virtual Boy titles. I don't care about the 3D effect anymore I just want to play Wario Land VB, Jack Bros and if Dragon Hopper really is completed or not.
Jools Watsham (Renegade Kid, now Atooi) pitched a colorized remake of Wario Land VB and was interested in doing the rest of the VB library but Nintendo turned it down.
I hope he keeps at it, we need this part of Nintendo's past brought back even if it is a failure.
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Post by Apollo Chungus on Oct 14, 2021 11:01:23 GMT -5
To be honest, my answer would be "Release all of the games, or at least as many as humanly possible so that everyone has a chance to play all kinds of interesting or cool games more easily." I'm aware that's a hell of a task, but I would really love that to happen in some shape or form beyond what the Internet Archive's done.
If I had to pull out more specific examples...
Dead or Alive 1-4 and Dimensions (all versions) - I wish more fighting games had compilations that released as many of the main OG games like Street Fighter tends to. Mortal Kombat sometimes does it with the first three games, but that's it otherwise. I'd like all versions of the Tomonobu Itagaki-directed DOA games to be ported* along with the 3DS-only Dimensions that hailed the series' return, as those are much less available than 5 and 6. Really, all fighting game series should have something similarly comprehensive, so do ones for Virtua Fighter (including games made in their engines like Sonic the Fighters, Fighting Vipers and Fighters Megamix), the post-MK3 Mortal Kombat games, Tekken, SoulCalibur, Bloody Roar, Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Killer Instinct, Street Fighter EX, Power Stone, Darkstalkers, Marvel vs Capcom and SNK's various fighting game series too.
*(for something like DOA2 which had nine versions, we can go with a mix of comprehensive and doable by going with the original pre-update arcade version, the Limited Edition Dreamcast port in Japan, the Japanese release of the Hard*Core PS2 port that included a few more changes, and the Ultimate remake for the Xbox that included various aspects from DOA3)
Broken Sword 1-4 - Include the ability to play either the original or Director's Cut versions of Shadow of the Templars, along with a polished version of the original Smoking Mirror that still lets you die while still offering the Remastered version. Feature an optional difficulty that removes some of the tougher or time-sensitive action-based elements from The Sleeping Dragon like those blasted stealth segments.
Oddworld: Abe's Odyssey and Exodus - The remakes should not be the only way of playing the original PS1 Oddworld games. Throw in the abridged GBC Oddworld Adventures ports for the heck of it.
Resident Evil 1-3 - Every version of the original PS1 trilogy, which haven't been released on modern systems since the PS3, and their various console ports/re-releases.
The Tomb Raider games by Core Design - This includes not just the original six games, but the GBC games (not made by Core Design, but throw in the GBA game The Prophecy as well). Include the Unfinished Business, Golden Mask and The Lost Artefact expansions as part of 1, 2 and 3 respectively.
Rare Replay GB/GBC/GBA Edition - This includes all the Rareware made games for the Game Boy family that can be included. Dunno whether the Donkey Kong Land games and the GBA Country remakes would be allowed, but you can at least release Battletoads/Double Dragon, Monster Max, Perfect Dark, Conker's Pocket Tales (both GB and GBC versions, as they have different level layouts iirc), Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge, Banjo-Pilot, Sabre-Wulf and everybody's favourite It's Mr Pants.
Obviously there's loads mores I could go from, but I've been writing this for over an hour as an attempt to wake myself up after a long afternoon, so I'm gonna leave it at that for now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 11:03:03 GMT -5
It's a port by M2 so it should be good. What's so messed up though is that it actually costs a little more to get G-Darius and Dariusburst digitally and you technically get less since the Switch compilation also include Sagaia for GB With Labo, I think it was a mistake to not start out with the VR set or at least not have partnerships set up to integrate the initial ToyCon sets where it made sense. I picked up the Variety Kit on hopes that some parts would get wider use, but that never happened. There's a few stray uses here and there e.g. Deemo has some limited support for the piano, but that's it. VR and a VB collection maybe with a reimagining of the canceled StarFox port would have definitely added some more sales. I'm a little confused about the different releases of the Darius series on Switch honestly, and I think you might have talked me out of this one. I was thinking due to being a proper retail release this ones price would drop like a rock in the UK. I think it should be decent value at around £15 still. For Labo Nintendo went full in on the edutainment angle so the release order makes sense from that perspective. I agree that the VR one would have gained more interest from their traditional core especially if there was software available that benefitted, but I guess that just wasn't what they were looking for. It's weird because I think the product they ended up with launched competing with high profile brands like Lego, so I don't think it was ever going to get any traction as it was pushed out. Supposedly the Game Builder Garage software was made from the back of the idea and that seems to fit more with what Nintendo can offer as edutainment for Switch players whilst differentiating themselves in the market.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Oct 14, 2021 11:22:11 GMT -5
Can we throw in the sequel? It's not very available and I've never been able to play it. I have a real soft spot for the original game. Oh I forgot that existed. Absolutely! Didn't know about Gimmick arcade either, very cool. Flashback: The Quest for Identity (or PC ver.) Flashback did have a rerelease a few years ago with new audio but also with a required graphical filter that looks awful. Darius Gaiden and G-Darius have had PS4 and Switch releases as part of different collections, but they cost way too much and don't have added features. A PDZ remake was announced at the same time as the original. It was supposed to come out this year, but seems to have been pushed back. My guess is Orta after that due to the significantly increased scope of Saga, but maybe they'll still go in order. Audio seems good though I'd like an option for the old setups on various the systems. The filter is unfortunate. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfEdpSFzVOo&t=1m30sSeems maybe you can toggle it after all? And for original sound as well though it's only the OPL2 PC sound it seems. That reminds me I didn't get the remake of 1 yet, there was some critique by old time fans but I should if only to make this one more likely in some form.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Oct 14, 2021 16:49:57 GMT -5
Someone at Nintendo must be really ashamed of the Virtual Boy's failure. I think only in the shape of some Warioware mini-games its existence was ever acknowledged. Such a pity. They should really embrace their complete history (even the part with the Yakuza ). It honestly gets a decent amount of cameos, but it also often isn't included when Nintendo list their history of systems, so they're a bit weird about it. It did show up as early as in Melee, so in that sense they got over it pretty quickly. I think the lack of VB ports has more to do with the fact it wouldn't be worth the trouble for them to do it for a system with so few first party titles.
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Post by windfisch on Oct 15, 2021 11:06:40 GMT -5
Someone at Nintendo must be really ashamed of the Virtual Boy's failure. I think only in the shape of some Warioware mini-games its existence was ever acknowledged. Such a pity. They should really embrace their complete history (even the part with the Yakuza ). It honestly gets a decent amount of cameos, but it also often isn't included when Nintendo list their history of systems, so they're a bit weird about it. It did show up as early as in Melee, so in that sense they got over it pretty quickly. I think the lack of VB ports has more to do with the fact it wouldn't be worth the trouble for them to do it for a system with so few first party titles. Now I'm intrigued: Got more VB-cameo examples?
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Post by dsparil on Oct 15, 2021 11:26:14 GMT -5
Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Available as a decoration Luigi's Mansion 3 - Map/menu system. The earlier video doesn't make that clear, and it's the only appearance the rises above cameo Smash - The Japanese version of Melee has it in the trophy room. For Wii U has it in the Game & Wario stage Super Paper Mario - It's in the background of one of the areas Tomodochi Life - There's videos on YouTube of character fighting over one WarioWare - It's in a few installments as a background element
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 11:35:53 GMT -5
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Oct 15, 2021 11:57:50 GMT -5
Speaking of ports, anyone know for sure what the most ported games are?
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Post by lurker on Oct 15, 2021 12:24:08 GMT -5
I’m surprised neither Rocket Knight Adventures nor Sparkster have appeared in any Genesis compilations or just ported beyond the two 16-bit systems.
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Post by spanky on Oct 15, 2021 13:19:36 GMT -5
Speaking of ports, anyone know for sure what the most ported games are? I think Tetris would be the easy one. Doom also. Hardly the most ported but I remember reading the Double Dragon Dojo years ago and being somewhat amazed at the number of ports the original game had.
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Post by ommadawnyawn2 on Oct 15, 2021 13:24:08 GMT -5
22!
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