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Post by zzz on Jun 22, 2008 16:24:14 GMT -5
This here is a topic dedicated specifically to all of the crazy shit that you make in Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium for SFC. First off, go here and download this 7-in-1 zip file called bill-something-or-other. It has seven different srams, each with their own theme. With these you can get rosters from WWF, WCW, ECW, classic WWF, misc. 70s and 80s wrestlers (this is the best of them all by far), a sram with the creator's favorite wrestlers, and a sram containing misc wrestlers from lucha libre, puro, and American indie feds. Best of all, they each have EIGHTY FREAKING WRESTLERS! Not only that, but the likenesses are flawless and the movesets are accurate to each wrestler. A must download! (While you're at it go here for a sram that makes the two hidden wrestlers in Queen's Special playable.) With that out of the way, I'll get back to the topic... What are the craziest and/or best characters that you've made in Fire Pro X Premium? They don't have to be wrestlers.I've only made a few that were actually any good, but I've been getting really into that game's CAW recently and have been working on a crapload of guys. While I'm at it, here are a few of my better recent creations (if anybody has any tips for how they could be improved that would be awesome): Royce Gracie (click for a few shots to compare it to) Face = 077 Pose = Fight Body = 077 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = Norm Pads = None Shoes 1 = Shin Shoes 2 = None Body = S Chest = S Abs = S Thigh = M Color Palette: 16-07-03 * 24-13-07 * 29-21-15 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 16-07-03 * 24-13-07 * 29-21-15 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 __________________ Chuck Norris (from Way of the Dragon - click his name for the shot that I based it on) Face = 092 Pose = Fight Body = 070 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = Norm Pads = None Shoes 1 = Shin Shoes 2 = 1 Body = S Chest = S Abs = S Thigh = M Color Palette: 18-12-04 * 27-18-15 * 30-24-20 * 18-13-00 * 26-21-10 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 18-12-04 * 27-18-15 * 30-24-20 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 __________________ Bruce Lee (from Way of the Dragon) Face = 062 Pose = Lucha Body = 016 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = Norm Pads = None Shoes 1 = Shin Shoes 2 = Legs Body = S Chest = S Abs = S Thigh = M Color Palette: 19-10-04 * 26-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 01-01-01 * 00-00-00 * 01-01-01 * 00-00-00 * 01-01-01 * 00-00-00 * 01-01-01 * 00-00-00 * 01-01-01 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 01-01-01 * 00-00-00 * 01-01-01 * 00-00-00 __________________ Sagat (click for the shot that I based the trunks off of) Face = 045 Pose = Shoot Body = 045 Outfit = None Pants = Belt Tights = Stripe Pads = None Shoes 1 = 1 Shoes 2 = Legs Body = L Chest = S Abs = S Thigh = M Color Palette: 16-08-04 * 24-14-08 * 30-21-14 * 16-08-04 * 24-14-08 * 13-00-00 * 28-00-00 * 08-00-17 * 14-00-31 * 08-00-17 * 14-00-31 * 23-23-21 * 29-29-26 * 16-08-04 * 24-14-08 * 30-21-14 * 23-23-21 * 29-29-26 If you consider the palette for his trunks to be too purple-ish, then try changing 08-00-17 to 03-00-16 and 14-00-31 to 09-00-31.__________________ Ken (click for the image that I was looking at when I made him - also compare how he looks from behind to this shot) Face = 092 Pose = Shoot Body = 020 Outfit = Suit Pants = Suit Tights = Norm Pads = None Shoes 1 = Shin Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = M Abs = S Thigh = M Color Palette: 17-08-04 * 24-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 27-22-12 * 29-27-00 * 13-00-00 * 28-00-00 * 16-01-00 * 28-00-00 * 16-01-00 * 28-00-00 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 17-08-04 * 24-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 13-00-00 * 26-00-00
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Post by r0ck3rz on Jun 23, 2008 7:48:25 GMT -5
super x premium....well, i'll tell ya, even when wrestling games were getting into 3d i played the hell out of that game back in the day. thing is, time went by and i got d on the ol' dreamcast, and super x premium kinda became....obsolete. most fire pro players have moved onto r on the ps2 by now, i still got d as my best. some things i admit i miss from super x premium that didn't make it to the newer titles:
an english translation (barring fire pro returns and the 2 gameboy advance games). not that navigating the menus is brutal or anything, but seeing it in your own language just makes it easier on you.
capitalizing on a missed jumping strike. newer fire pros, if they miss a jumping strike(drop kick, wheel kick, etc.) they get up right away.
2 running corner attacks. not a huge deal, but you only got 1 in the newer ones.
running corner attack counters. all you got now is basically moving out of the way, which is kinda cool because they bump into the corner and fall over.
the a.i. programming was even so good in that game, that i can remember around the time it got translated ken shamrock was in the wwf. you could program him so well, that he kept hitting the ankle lock after the match, like he did in real life. of course he was already in the game, so that'd kind of be a wasted slot. this didn't get worse with newer installments or anything, i was just making a statement here.
if you really like the caws made here, try them on a newer fire pro, they'll look a ton better. well...maybe. i actually think this one looks better than the gba titles.
p.s. if you want this, and let me know of a way to distribute it if you do, i got a program from the translator called sfhack. with this you can do some crazy stuff through hacking the sram. including disabling the lumberjack mode during the battle royal, so you can fight and dive outside the ring, and turning one of your edits into giant baba with hidden graphics from within the game(face and pic only, you still gotta edit the outfit, moves, and logic). it also comes with every patch he made. thing is, the program requires dos commands. turn everything in the docs folder into a text files and read what you can there and you should be all set if you can deal with it.
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Post by zzz on Jun 25, 2008 11:01:02 GMT -5
Ryu (from Street Fighter, obviously) Face = 079 Pose = Shoot Body = 079 Outfit = Suit Pants = Suit Tights = Norm Pads = None Shoes 1 = Shin Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = M Abs = M Thigh = M Color Palette: 17-10-06 * 26-17-10 * 31-24-18 * 02-02-02 * 14-08-04 * 16-01-00 * 28-00-00 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 25-25-26 * 31-31-30 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 17-10-06 * 26-17-10 * 31-24-18 * 21-21-22 * 27-27-26
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Post by jcc on Jun 25, 2008 12:11:02 GMT -5
r0ck3rz, I for one would love to have sfhack and the rest of those patches. I've been looking for them for ages and have only been able to find dead links.
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Post by r0ck3rz on Jun 25, 2008 14:41:17 GMT -5
sweet, pretty painless to upload shit to rapidshare: rs249.rapidshare.com/files/125005404/sfhack6.zipalso, the following are unlockable if you beat championship mode and the 2 subsequent smaller championship modes that follow: NEW WORLD PRO-WRESTLING (New Japan) __________________________________ VICTORY MUSASHI (Antonio Inoki) STRONG SAKEGUCHI (Seiji Sakaguchi) MASK DE PANTHER (Tiger Mask) DYNAMIC KID (Dynamite Kid) ALL PACIFIC PRO-WRESTLING (All Japan) ________________________________ HARLEY TEXAN JR. (Dory Funk Jr.) BIG THE GREAT BULL (Bruiser Brody) INDEPENDENTS WORLD (FMA/IWA) ___________________________ KERRY TEXAN (Terry Funk) MASTER TOGO (Mister Pogo) R*Y*U (W. A. R.) _____________ MASCARA CONDOR (Mil Mascaras) YUKIGUNI WRESTLING (Michinoku Pro) ___________________________ GRAN MARIPOSA (Gran Hamada) WWC (WWF/ WCW) ________________ DICK SLENDER (Ric Flair) IRON BLASTER (Road Warrior Animal) LEGENDARY WRESTLERS ___________________ CARLOS KRAUSER (Karl Gotch) R.J. PHASE (Lou Thesz) RIKIOUZAN (Rikidozan) BLITZ VON ELRICK (Fritz Von Erich) GREAT PANTHER (Super Tiger) HWF ____ HIZELSHUTAT VON LUDWIG you also get 100 points for character creation for beating the main championship mode and 150 for the other 2 championship modes that follow guys i can recognize in the create mode that aren't in the game: 87 - power warrior, an alternative appearance to kensuke sasaki in new japan(STORM DAISUKE in NEW WORLD PRO-WRESTLING) 90 - wouldn't bank on it, but possibly rey mysterio 91 - not sure, but may be abdullah the butcher 93 - gladiator(mike awesome) 95 - possibly shiryu(kaz hayashi before wcw) 98 - bret the hitman hart 99 - sting 100 - ravishing rick rude 101 - british bulldog davey boy smith 102 - bam bam bigelow 106 - the destroyer if i'm right on the few guesses i took, rey, abdullah, shiryu(as kaz), bret, sting, davey boy and bam bam are all defaults in later fire pros. i can make move sets for them from these later fire pros if anyone wants.
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Post by zzz on Jun 25, 2008 17:38:22 GMT -5
Mas OyamaFace = 102 Pose = Fighter Body = 010 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = S Chest = L Abs = M Thigh = L Color Palette: 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 26-25-22 * 31-31-30 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ Fedor EmelianenkoFace = 103 Pose = Fight Body = 121 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = M Abs = M Thigh = M Color Palette: 18-10-06 * 26-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 14-11-06 * 22-18-12 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 02-02-02 * 07-08-08 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 18-10-06 * 26-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ Andy HugFace = 037 Pose = Fight Body = 100 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = Norm Pads = None Shoes 1 = Shin Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = S Abs = S Thigh = M Color Palette: 18-10-06 * 26-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 18-10-06 * 26-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 If you'd like to make him look like this then change Pants to Belt, Tights to Stripe, and Shoes 1 to None. Then change the color palette to this: 18-10-06 * 26-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 21-13-00 * 31-22-04 * 16-01-00 * 24-00-05 * 16-01-00 * 24-00-05 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 18-10-06 * 26-16-10 * 31-24-18 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ AsashoryuFace = 076 Pose = Normal, Non Pro, or Power Body = 076 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = LL Abs = LL Thigh = L Color Palette: 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ HakuhoFace = 076 Pose = Normal, Non Pro, or Power Body = 036 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = LL Abs = LL Thigh = L Color Palette: 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ ChiyonofujiFace = 076 Pose = Normal, Non Pro, or Power Body = 063 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = LL Abs = LL Thigh = L Color Palette: 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ TaihoFace = 076 Pose = Normal, Non Pro, or Power Body = 049 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = LL Abs = LL Thigh = L Color Palette: 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ TakanohanaFace = 076 Pose = Normal, Non Pro, or Power Body = 064 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = LL Abs = LL Thigh = L Color Palette: 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 __________________ FutabayamaFace = 076 Pose = Normal, Non Pro, or Power Body = 000 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = None Shoes 2 = None Body = M Chest = LL Abs = LL Thigh = L Color Palette: 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 02-02-02 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 02-02-02 * 05-06-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00
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Post by zzz on Jun 25, 2008 17:44:22 GMT -5
guys i can recognize in the create mode that aren't in the game: Here's everything: 087-Power Warrior 088-Hercules Hernandez 089-Pegasus Kid 090-Jyushin Thunder Lyger in shoot-style costume 091-Abdullah the Butcher 092-Mitsuhiro Matsunaga 093-The Gladiator 094-Kendo Nagasaki 095-Shiryu 096-Gran Naniwa 097-Dos Caras 098-Bret Hart 099-Sting 100-Rick Rude 101-Davey Boy Smith 102-Crusher Bam Bam Bigelow 103-Willie Williams 104-Dusty Rhodes 105-Roland Bock 106-The Destroyer
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Post by r0ck3rz on Jun 25, 2008 20:35:13 GMT -5
thought it might have been rolund, but wasn't sure. i'm not familar enough with him. dusty i didn't know if it might have been him or dick murdoch.
everyone else i recognized, i got move sets for, as well as rey mysterio, giant baba, if anyones gonna sfhack him in, andre, randy savage and eddie guerrerro. i gotta translate move sets to what actually works in x premium, but once i do i'll have those guys and bam bam, sting, bret, bulldog, shiryu/kaz, abdullah and gladiator/awesome.
if my dc holds up, which i may have seen bad signs of, i can grab move sets for gran naniwa, dos caras, roland bock, and the major wwf/wcw guys circa 2001(ddp, austin, booker, angle, rock, kane, all of dx, outsiders) .
for now, here's abdullah the butcher:
make: face: 78, 87 or 88 body: 91 note: for personal preference you can tweak the color of the pants, red or black seems to be colors he prefers.
skills(this is a lot of guesswork on my part): type: orthodox counter: bedlam recovery: normal when cut: fast speed: medium slow specialty: general rope stop: no ring count: 17 post dive: no run up post: no music: ?
stats: attack: _______ punch:4 kick:3 throw:3 joint:1 submit:4 flying:1 power:5 arm:4 tech:1 rough:5 defend: _______ punch:5 kick:5 throw:2 joint:2 submit:3 flying:5 tough:4 lariat:5 tech:5 rough:4 neck:5 shoulder:5 hip:3
move set: strikes: 1(y) punch 2(b) slap 3(a) thrust kick
running attacks: 1(y) shoulder tackle 2(b) toe kick
running attack counters: 1(y) back elbow 2(b) back body drop
corner attacks: 1(y) bodypress 2(b) bodypress(or anything else you think fits. the game i took the move set from has 1 corner attack)
corner counter: 1 thrust kick
running dive to the outside: 1 n/a
springboard dive to the outside: 1 double ax handle (this may have been a move hacked into my game through one of the various patches, if you don't have it, choose none)
irish whip to the ropes counter: 1 none
top rope diving attacks: 1(y) none 2(b) none 3(a) none 4(x) none
test of strength counter: 1 throat thrust
irishi whip/takedown option: 1(x) irish whip
weak grapples: 1(y) throat thrust 2(y+up/down) body slam 3(y+left) arm drag 4(y+right) axe handle
medium grapples: 1(b) headbutt 2(b+up) suplex 3(b+left/right) headlock takedown 4(b+down) step throat thrust
strong grapples: 1(a) biting 2(a+up) samoan drop 3(a+left/right) foreign object 4(a+down) jump pildriver 5(y+b) step throat thrust(or any replace for a jawbreaker)
behind grapple: 1(y) double ax handle 2(b) back lariat(or replacement for headbutt) 3(a) shoulder claw 4(a+up/down) foreign object 5(a+left/right) leg grab backdrop 6(y+b) side slam
behind grapple counters: 1(y) elbowbutt 2(b) groin kick
downed attacks/pins(this is seriously messed up due to the difference between games, but not too entirely off nonetheless): 1(a face up upper body) face stomp 2(a face up lower body) leg stomp 3(a face down upper body) camel clutch 4(a face down lower body) leg stomp 5(b face up upper body) lateral press 6(b face up lower body) hook press 7(b face down upper body) lateral press 8(b face down lower body) hook press
corner grapples(also messed up due to the difference between games. all his corner grapples were strikes): 1(a+up) none 2(a+left/right) headbutt rush(could be replaced with shoulder ram, or stomping) 3(a+down) none
special move: 1(y+b in whatever position you choose) [mat up head] elbow drop(closest thing to a running elbow pin) [finisher(decided by the r trigger, colors the move in yellow)]
double team from front: 1 leggrab back drop (replacement for vertical suplex)
double team from behind: 1 leggrab back drop
taunts: 1 single arm raise 2 air chops 3 open arms
other than the stuff i noted, the move set transitioned pretty nicely and thankfully i had stats to work with as well, so that wasn't too bad up there. if you don't tweak those, you do piss poor damage. logic was the only thing i didn't touch, and it's only necessary to tweak if you want to watch cpu vs. cpu matches. also i didn't mention the name, the best you'd be able to do is "abdullah t he butcher." plus the short name when selecting him will only be "adbul" at best.
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Post by zzz on Jun 26, 2008 4:19:49 GMT -5
i got move sets for... andre, randy savage... bulldog... dos caras, roland bock... GameFAQs has character FAQs detailing the stats and movesets for Eddie Guerrero, Bret Hart, Gran Naniwa, Giant Baba, Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, Rock, Kane, and others from the Dreamcast version. More from Returns, G, and Z. However, the other guys that I quoted above it does not have any FAQs for, and I wouldn't mind seeing their stats and movesets, myself. And if it's not too much trouble, how about Kotetsu Yamamoto while you're at it? I just called him Abdullah Butcher and made the shortened form Abbie.
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Post by zzz on Jun 26, 2008 4:54:50 GMT -5
I'm going to start breaking these longer posts up, so that this thread doesn't get even more stupidly long than it already is.
Bill Battershill's X Premium formulas for Andre the Giant, Giant Baba, and Macho Man Randy Savage:
Andre the Giant
Face = 038 Pose = Normal Body = 110 Outfit = Non Pro Pants = Non Pro Tights = None Pads = None Shoes 1 = 1 Shoes 2 = 1 Body = L Chest = LL Abs = LL Thigh = L
Color Palette:
17-10-08 * 26-18-14 * 31-24-20 * 02-02-02 * 09-08-07 * 28-11-00 * 29-27-00 * 09-20-31 * 18-27-31 * 02-02-02 * 07-08-08 * 02-02-02 * 07-08-08 * 17-10-08 * 26-18-14 * 31-24-20 * 02-02-02 * 07-08-08
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Post by zzz on Jun 26, 2008 4:56:16 GMT -5
Giant Baba
Face = 023 Pose = Normal Body = 029 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = Yes Shoes 1 = 1 Shoes 2 = 1 Body = L Chest = M Abs = M Thigh = M
Color Palette:
17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 02-02-02 * 08-07-06 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 00-00-00 * 19-02-00 * 28-06-00 * 02-02-02 * 07-08-08 * 17-07-02 * 24-14-07 * 30-22-13 * 19-02-00 * 28-06-00
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Post by zzz on Jun 26, 2008 4:57:19 GMT -5
Macho Man Randy Savage
Face = 094 Pose = Normal Body = 088 Outfit = None Pants = Pants Tights = None Pads = Yes Shoes 1 = 1 Shoes 2 = 1 Body = M Chest = M Abs = M Thigh = M
Color Palette:
18-12-04 * 27-18-15 * 30-24-20 * 06-04-04 * 11-09-09 * 17-00-16 * 24-00-22 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 22-10-13 * 23-17-17 * 30-19-00 * 31-29-09 * 23-23-24 * 23-23-24 * 29-29-28 * 26-21-00 * 31-31-10
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Post by r0ck3rz on Jun 26, 2008 7:14:46 GMT -5
i should have known that...i mean i really should have known that. i went through their move sets in the game itself...
anyway i'll give ya the stats/moves of the 3 you made, but i do have roland bock, dos caras, and kotetsu yamamoto. dos caras is gonna be tough, i don't think x premium has a lot(if any) of his specialty submissions.
Andre The Giant(should have no naming issues at all):
skills: ______________ type: orthodox counter: power recovery: slow when cut: normal speed: slow post climb: slow specialty: power rope stop: no ring count: 10 teamwork: normal post dive: no run up post: no music:
stats: ___________________________ attack defend punch:4 punch:5 kick:3 kick:5 throw:3 throw:1 joint:1 joint:1 submit:5 submit:2 flying:1 flying:5 power:5 tough:1 arm:5 lariat:5 tech:1 tech:2 rough:4 rough:3 neck:5 shoulder:5 hip:2
11 points less than abdullah, but these are the official stats(well i had to guess on flying, which is thankfully easy for these 2, and combine leg and back to make hip, which again was thankfully easy for these 2). from here on out i guess i'm gonna need a better format for the attack/defense stats as neck, shoulder, and hip should read under defense...
strikes: 1(y)punch 2(b)kick 3(a)football tackle
running attacks: 1(y)shoulder tackle 2(b)body splash
running attack counters: 1(y) front high kick 2(b) 2 hand choke
corner attacks: 1(y) jump hip attack (should have been a non-jumping version) 2(b) body press
corner counter: 1 front high kick
running dive to the outside: 1 none
springboard dive to the outside: 1 none(if you have it, you can use the double axe handle)
irish whip to the ropes counter: 1 none
top rope diving attacks: 1(y) none 2(b) none 3(a) none 4(x) none
test of strength counter: 1 turn knee lift(or whatever power move you can think of)
irishi whip/takedown option: 1(x) irish whip
weak grapples: 1(y) slap(replacemnt for eye gouge/face scratch) 2(y+up/down) turn knee lift 3(y+left) high angle slam 4(y+right) axe handle
medium grapples: 1(b) neck hang 2(b+up) headbutt 3(b+left/right) backbreaker slam 4(b+down) coconut crush
strong grapples: 1(a) bearhug 2(a+up)rack backbreaker(argentine backbreaker might be another name for it) 3(a+left/right) shoulder backbreaker 4(a+down) drop powerslam 5(y+b) jump tombstone
behind grapple: 1(y) double axe handle 2(b) back lariat(replacement for headbutt) 3(a) shoulder claw 4(a+up/down) high atmic drop 5(a+left/right) torture abdomnial stretch 6(y+b) leg grab backdrop
behind grapple counters: 1(y) elbow butt 2(b) back press
downed attacks/pins: 1(a face up uper body) foot stamp 2(a face up lower body) boston crab 3(a face down upper body) camel clutch 4(a face down lower body) leg stomp 5(b face up uper body) lateral press 6(b face up lower body) hook press 7(b face down upper body) lateral press 8(b face down lower body) hook press
corner grapples: 1(a+up)none 2(a+left/right)headbutt rush or axe handles 3(a+down)none
special move: 1(y+b in whatever position you choose) [mat up head] elbow drop [finisher, was also a running elbow pin]
double team from front: 1 headbutt rush(whatever makes sense to you, the double teams are vastly different in later games)
double team from behind: 1 leg grab backdrop
taunts: 1 turn arm raise 2 chest stretch 3 wind up stretch
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Post by r0ck3rz on Jun 26, 2008 9:41:49 GMT -5
Giant Baba:
skills: ______________ type:orthodox counter:strong recovery:normal when cut:normal speed:medium slow post climb:slow specialty:general rope stop:no ring count:10 teamwork:normal post dive:yes run up post:no music:
stats: ___________________________ attack..........defend punch:5.........punch:5 kick:4..........kick:5 throw:3.........throw:2 joint:3.........joint:4 submit:4........submit:4 flying:2........flying:5 power:5.........tough:1 arm:3...........lariat:4 tech:3..........tech:4 rough:1.........rough:4 ................neck:5 ................shoulder:5 ................hip:3
^looks better in a text document, but it's an improvement
strikes: 1(y)slap 2(b)kick 3(a)giant kick
running attacks: 1(y)shoulder tackle 2(b)run neckbreaker
running attack counters: 1(y) back elbow(closest thing to the chop he uses in later games) 2(b) front high kick
corner attacks: 1(y) giant kick 2(b) drop kick
corner counter: 1 front high kick
running dive to the outside: 1 none
springboard dive to the outside: 1 none
irish whip to the ropes counter: 1 none
top rope diving attacks: 1(y) none 2(b) none 3(a) none 4(x) none(weird that they allow him to climb eh?, you could put a crossbody, as he used to hit that when he was younger)
test of strength counter: 1 probably any type of chopping if you have it, if not whatever works
irishi whip/takedown option: 1(x) irish whip
weak grapples: 1(y) backhand chop 2(y+up/down)arm drag 3(y+left) body slam 4(y+right) leg spin
medium grapples: 1(b) headlock punches 2(b+up) headcrown chop 3(b+left/right) cocnut crush 4(b+down) shoulder amrbreaker(or a suitable replacement if your patch didn't allow for strong moves in your medium move grapple list)
strong grapples: 1(a) windpipe chops 2(a+up) jump crown chop 3(a+left/right) russian legsweep 4(a+down) piledriver(from medium grapple list) 5(y+b) jumping ddt
behind grapple: 1(y) leg trip 2(b) atomic drop 3(a) abdominal stretch 4(a+up/down) leg grab backdrop 5(a+left/right) backslide hold 6(y+b) chicken wing lock(closest thing to the cobra clutch backbreaker)
behind grapple counters: 1(y) elbowbutt 2(b) coconut crush
downed attacks/pins: 1(a face up uper body) cross armbreaker 2(a face up lower body) leg stomp 3(a face down upper body) head stomp 4(a face down lower body) stf 5(b face up uper body) lateral press 6(b face up lower body) hook press 7(b face down upper body) lateral press 8(b face down lower body) hook press
corner grapples: 1(a+up)none 2(a+left/right)either backhand chops, axe handles or shoulder rams 3(a+down)none
special move: 1(y+b in whatever position you choose) [standing] dropkick
double team from front: 1 backhand chop or whatever works (replaces a double vertical suplex(most have this or an assisted powerbomb)
double team from behind: 1 leg grab backdrop or whatever works(everyone seems to have this)
taunts: 1 single hand raise 2 fist sky stab 3 windup stretch
aside from 1 major move, he transitions quite nicely
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Post by zzz on Jun 26, 2008 10:35:03 GMT -5
(or a suitable replacement if your patch didn't allow for torn moves in your medium move grapple list) What does this mean?
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