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Ys
Apr 22, 2015 20:13:56 GMT -5
Post by wyrdwad on Apr 22, 2015 20:13:56 GMT -5
On that note, as someone who first really heard about Ys through its relations to the Legend of Heroes series, which of the games would you all recommend for a first-timer? That depends. Are you a hardcore enough gamer to be on Hardcore Gaming 101? If you're OK with old-school challenge, then I'd say the definitive Ys experience is Ys: The Oath in Felghana -- I can't think of a better game to start with (PSP *or* PC, it doesn't matter). If you're more of a modern gamer, though, then I'd say go either Ys Seven or Ys: Memories of Celceta, as both are a tiny bit more forgiving than Felghana, with way more stats, more ability to tweak things, and more chances to redeem yourself if you screw up somewhere. -Tom
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Apr 22, 2015 20:21:15 GMT -5
Post by Magma MK-II on Apr 22, 2015 20:21:15 GMT -5
Well you should start from the beginning, of course. Get the Ys I&II Chronicles version for PC.
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Apr 22, 2015 21:33:36 GMT -5
Post by wyrdwad on Apr 22, 2015 21:33:36 GMT -5
Not always the best advice. Ys I & II are great games, but they don't really represent the Ys series as a whole anymore, and if you don't have tolerance for a lot of very old game design methods, they could really turn you off from Ys as a whole. I generally recommend that Ys I & II be someone's SECOND Ys game, not their first.
If you're a stickler for continuity, start with Ys Origin. That's the very, very beginning of the story, and is much more representative of modern Ys than Ys I & II (even though it, too, is very different from the other Ys games in many ways).
-Tom
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Ys
Apr 23, 2015 2:54:21 GMT -5
Post by hudakj on Apr 23, 2015 2:54:21 GMT -5
I got my start with the Turbo CD version of YS 1 & 2 myself. Those were very entertaining old-school style games once you get used to playing its style of game. Part 2 was clearly superior in both size and content. Though too be honest the music was so kick ass I could easily forgive the level grinding.
On this subject, how much does Ys 6, Origin, & 7 differ from the Ys 2 & 4?
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Ys
Apr 23, 2015 2:59:34 GMT -5
Post by wyrdwad on Apr 23, 2015 2:59:34 GMT -5
I got my start with the Turbo CD version of YS 1 & 2 myself. Those were very entertaining old-school style games once you get used to playing its style of game. Part 2 was clearly superior in both size and content. Though too be honest the music was so kick ass I could easily forgive the level grinding. On this subject, how much does Ys 6, Origin, & 7 differ from the Ys 2 & 4? A lot! No more bump system, and both 6 and Origin (and Felghana) have fully 3D environments with jumping, so you have all kinds of combat moves (up-thrust, down-thrust, lunge attacks, etc.) and platforming. And while Ys Seven doesn't have jumping, it does have a dodge roll, and you actually have a party of characters with you, with the ability to switch out members on the fly. Each party member has a different attack style, so you have some characters attacking with quick dagger lunges, some shooting bows, some straight-up punching (good ol' Dogi!), etc. -Tom
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Ys
Apr 23, 2015 11:45:15 GMT -5
Post by kaoru on Apr 23, 2015 11:45:15 GMT -5
Let me throw Napishtim as a starting point out there. It's close enough to Felghana/Origins that if you'll happen to not enjoy it, you probably don't need to try those either. But it's very much a prototype for that style, meaning it can be a bit of a letdown after playing Felghana first. Any of the three is ok, though, they are more modern than I&II, but not as bloated as Seven/Celceta.
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Ys
Apr 23, 2015 20:21:17 GMT -5
Post by Magma MK-II on Apr 23, 2015 20:21:17 GMT -5
Falcom really needs to port Seven and Celceta to PC. I really want to play them, but I won't buy a PSP/Vita just for that (even if I had the money to).
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Ys
Feb 22, 2016 1:18:13 GMT -5
Post by ranzor on Feb 22, 2016 1:18:13 GMT -5
There's a little error in the part about Ys IV - Mask of the Sun for the Super Famicom. It says the game starts as Adol finds a letter from Luta Gemma. Actually, he finds a letter in a bottle washed up on the beach and asks Luta to translate it for him. Also, in a future revision the part about Ys VI needs to be updated about the Steam release and how it fixes the backtracking problems by including warping like it was in Oath in Felghana. I was reading through the whole article and found a lot of typos, too. If it's any use, I can look it over and send what I find.
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Ys
Apr 24, 2016 14:03:53 GMT -5
Post by Startling on Apr 24, 2016 14:03:53 GMT -5
"Ancient Ys Vanished Omen" (not "Omens") isn't really a "grammatical quandary" at all, the developers simply didn't feel like subtitling in a subtitle. Ys and Ys II are treated as two halves and collectively referred to as "Ancient Ys Vanished", divided into "Omen" (序章) and "The Final Chapter" (最終章). Now, "Y{'}s: The Vanished Omens" (I love your autocorrect so much) is the linguistic quandary you're looking for; it might as well be complete gibberish, the fools.
The correct name of the final boss is "Dalk Fukt". "Dark Fact" is a funny double meaning, and I'm sure anyone would be too terrified to use "Fukt", but sorry. Falcom is actually pretty consistent with the Fukt name; it persists to recent works such as Origin, Chronicle, and Alternative Saga, at least. Similarly, the third character of Ys Origin is meant to be named "Thor Fact"; "Toal" is a long-standing error taken from the song titles of Ys II (it is implied that an area in Ys II was named after this individual, much like Kishgal).
The name of the Darm Tower theme is "Tower of the Shadow of Death", there's no light and warmth in this one... especially in the original game. The only thing warm about that tower is the song itself.
On the Origin page, you have "Jenocres" and "Nygtilger" mixed up for the screenshots. Their mention in the article is correct.
Like with any work, the best starting point is the original PC-88 version of the first game, and working your way onward in release order; of course, noone likes the research. Ys is weird in that many of the games are vastly different; Ys I & II Chronicle is a pretty good starting point, and a good number of people in this fanbase started from a push system game, despite the localizer's protestations. Ys V might as well be a standalone entry, an easy starting point. Ys6, YsF, and YsO are a trilogy (not in plot) and must be treated as such to get the full enjoyment. Similarly, you have the wildly different Seven and Celceta; VIII looks like it's going to be different from those, and might be its own starting point.
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Jul 22, 2016 8:58:33 GMT -5
Post by Magma MK-II on Jul 22, 2016 8:58:33 GMT -5
Vita version of Ys VIII is out now.
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Ys
Jul 22, 2016 9:51:42 GMT -5
Post by Discoalucard on Jul 22, 2016 9:51:42 GMT -5
Been following the import impression thread on NeoGAF: neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1249830Sounds a lot more like VII/Celceta as far as script and pacing (which was expected). A lot of posters there hated that style compared to Felghana/Origins. I prefer the more action/platformer-y type too but I still enjoyed the others, especially Celceta. I downloaded MP3s of the music CD that was bundled with it, excellent music as usual, one of the tracks started off with a very obvious homage to First Steps Toward War. I think these are the tracks here that Falcom uploaded on Youtube: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzFTGYa_evXgG8m6ulXj9E5gUDpg_HR6q
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Ys
Aug 21, 2016 14:53:23 GMT -5
Post by Magma MK-II on Aug 21, 2016 14:53:23 GMT -5
* So, as far as the plot goes, should I play any version of IV before getting into Celceta? * Is there any site I can find character art from SEVEN (especially the spoiler characters)?
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Ys
Aug 21, 2016 21:05:56 GMT -5
Post by Discoalucard on Aug 21, 2016 21:05:56 GMT -5
* So, as far as the plot goes, should I play any version of IV before getting into Celceta? Not really. As far as the current Ys canon goes, Celceta is meant to take the place of IV. It might be a good idea to play one of them afterwards (PCE one recommended) just to see the differences. That one diverges the most, probably.
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Ys
Aug 21, 2016 22:07:43 GMT -5
Post by toei on Aug 21, 2016 22:07:43 GMT -5
I'll note that it's worth playing both Snes and PCE-CD Ys IVs, since they're completely different games. Being old-school Ys, they're very short-both combined are probably shorter than Ys 7-so it shouldn't take up too much of your time. And if Celceta is anything like Ys 7, they're also better games.
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Ys
Aug 22, 2016 8:52:19 GMT -5
Post by Magma MK-II on Aug 22, 2016 8:52:19 GMT -5
By they way, I have seen a PC version of Celceta around the Internet, is it official?
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