I thought all of the SNES FFs tried and achieved that...
FF6 and FF4 had deep stories? Did you play them? FF4 is the game that invented the cliche fantasy story in console RPGs. The Story in FF6 isn't even close to something you can call deep. It's exactly the opposite: a fun and simple story.
Post by jameseightbitstar on Nov 13, 2006 20:24:56 GMT -5
I think FF7 is overrated, but it still a very good game. I liked the plot, I liked few characters, I liked the music and the materia system was nice. But the most important thing about FF7 is that it was the first game who tried to deliver a deep and complex story. Yes, he failed, but atleast he tried. And that opened the door for true and successive deep stories in console RPGs like Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Suikoden 2 and more. For that reason alone, opening the way for the best games in the genre, I am respecting FF7.
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Personally, I've never been huge on the whole thing about video games having "deep" stories. Back when I was eighteen, I believed in the RPG-Story religion with all my heart, but today I look at the things I worshipped when I was young, and they make me laugh. Xenogears is one example. I don't really think games have gotten any more deep and complex than, say, a Shonen Jump manga.
But if they have, then the trend was beginning as far back as FF1, possibly even as far back as Dragon Warrior. Those games weren't deep and complex on their own (then again, neither was FF7 IMO) but they both had plotlines where not everything was known to you in the beginning, and you had to discover things as you went along. FF2 took this a step further, as did games like Ys and Fire Emblem... and you could argue that even American RPGs such as the Wizardry games were contributing (in fact, Ultimas 4, 5, and 6 were probably the first RPGs anywhere to have any sort of deep storyline).
Can someone cranky FF4 and FF6? They're both great, better than DQ, but they're not, you know. GREAT. FF6 was a rock solid game, but it didn't blow my mind like the latter-day FFs or ICO or anything actually mind-blowing. 4+6 just raised the bar a lot.
Let's see, I recognise FF4 having a cliché setting, but the story was at least a little different, and FF6's Kefka is often thought to be one of the greatest villains of all time.
The story in FF4 was different in it's time, but again it's still a flat and simple story.
Kefka is just another "Muhahahaha I will destroy the world for no particular reason" kind of villain. He may have some memorable quotes, but he is just another stupid ordinary villain with zero depht. No where near to the real great villains.
Post by YourAverageJoe on Nov 14, 2006 7:29:44 GMT -5
That may have been so, but he actually accomplished what he wanted, got his rule over the world, ascended to a near-god state, and was feared all over the world. He usurped the throne and deliberately made his own world near-inhospitable.