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Post by Atma on Apr 19, 2009 22:35:09 GMT -5
I think I would've preferred the VP hentai doujinshi. >_>; It's actually a really cool comic. :P It's got this awesome style about it since the two artists used charcoal or something. I've never seen any other doujinshi quite like it. Half of it is a story and the other half is just a series of drawings, kinda like what you'd see in a college-level figure drawing class. Really pretty stuff. But I'm probably the only person around here that collects doujinshi, so I'll stop yammering about stuff no one cares about, hehe. I actually have a really gigantic stack of Xenosaga doujins in my room, so don't feel bad. I actually love doujinshi and the idea of it and wish I was artistic enough to produce my own fan comics some times.
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Post by onoff456 on Apr 19, 2009 22:55:50 GMT -5
I think you will get better results if you treat this problem as an ebay transaction gone bad. You can burn the pirate later.
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Post by cj iwakura on Apr 20, 2009 20:03:33 GMT -5
Shame, that bar game looked like it could've been a great Mad Dog McCree-type shooter.
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Post by savagepencil on Apr 20, 2009 21:33:11 GMT -5
At least those were full games. And the cover wasnt totally un-related. Were they all abandonware stuff? From the cover, I only recognized The Beverly Hillbillies, Albion and The Simpsons arcade game. There really isn't such a thing as abandonware. Kurt made the right call; they didn't even get him the full versions!
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Post by Weasel on Apr 21, 2009 0:37:46 GMT -5
Shame, that bar game looked like it could've been a great Mad Dog McCree-type shooter. About the farthest thing you can get from Mad Dog McCree, really. It's an adventure game from Legend Entertainment.
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Post by jorpho on Apr 22, 2009 1:10:29 GMT -5
FYI, as I recall, Legend's arrangements with various publishing companies generally only allowed them to publish their licensed games for a limited time. There would likely be too much legal wrangling involved for Atari (who apparently ended up with Legend in the end) to consider re-releasing them.
Last time I checked, Spider Robinson was openly directing people to HOTU if they wanted to play Callahan's Crosstime Saloon.
And speaking of Legend, I was quite impressed with Death Gate. The sheer quantity of voice work was astonishing.
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Post by TheChosen on Apr 22, 2009 14:04:36 GMT -5
Yeah, but I think Death Gate had too much of that. At least in the beginning.
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Post by Discoalucard on Apr 22, 2009 16:32:37 GMT -5
Ugh, so, I got a replay to my Paypal claim. Turns out I need to send it back to him, which, to England, costs something like $6-$7, which was just a few bucks less than what I paid for it to begin with. Just not gonna bother at this point, unless I can convince Paypal otherwise.
On a much cooler note, I actually got an e-mail from Josh Mandel, the designer of the game. He said he was perfectly cool with the game appearing on abandonware sites but wasn't cool with people selling them. He offered to send me an original one, although I actually found one on Amazon that (hopefully) is legit. Very cool of him, though!
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Post by kitten on Apr 25, 2009 12:26:01 GMT -5
Pretty funny article, it was a good read (:
I think there are a couple of grammatical errors at the bottom, though...
"But what does bother amuse me"
Shouldn't that be bother/amuse or just one or the other?
"And I expect this kind of stuff like, say, Chinatown"
Shouldn't that be "from like?"
Not trying to be rude, just helpful.
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Post by Dais on May 3, 2009 17:33:20 GMT -5
About a week and a half ago, I read this article and was amused by it, but something about it felt....off to me. Like it was nudging some memory in my head. Just today, I looked at the article again, and let out an involuntary whimper. See, several months ago, a nice guy over at selectbutton pointed out a game I might be interested in - an odd FFTactics clone for PC called "The Holy Sword - The Ring". Most information on this game seems to have disappeared from the web (if there ever was any to begin with), save a few Russian sites with screenshots. Both the Asian company that made it and the European company that localized it seem to have gone out of business. I put obtaining a legitimate version of the game on my list of "video game related things to do before I die" (unfortunately, it's a very long list). While looking for information, I stumbled across a company that seemed to be selling bunches of obscure European games at low prices (the titles being ones that aren't in high demand), as well as lots of clipart CDs and C-tier application software. While browsing their site (and related ebay accounts), I also noticed a few other titles that grabbed my interest. One was The Creed, an odd action-adventure game that might be considered a sort of non-linear bleak dystopian sci-fi game in a Resident Evil-style engine (pre-rendered backgrounds and I think tank controls). It's an Australian title you rarely hear about, and I've read it's pretty buggy - in fact, let me just link to the page on one of the (download-less) Home of the Underdogs mirrors: www.homeoftheunderdogs.net/game.php?id=3534Sounds like a good car crash kinda game, right? Another game I was kind of interested in while I was browsing their selection was a title I also knew of from HOTU called Valkyrie: The Magical Odyssey - aka the VP doujin game (which, uh, isn't an Amiga game, I'm pretty sure). I planned to obtain all three of these games from these guys (even though I could probably pirate them with no guilt attached) before I got distracted by computer problems. Then this article came along, and now I'm sad.Ebay is the only legitimate way I can think of getting these games. And it turns out that might not be so legitimate after all :( Oh, and that VP doujin, Succubus - does it have any clean pages? I'd like to see this art style you're talking about.
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Post by Scylla on May 3, 2009 18:28:50 GMT -5
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Post by Dais on May 3, 2009 18:34:01 GMT -5
er, I'm not actually referring to it as a doujin game, just alluding to the use of the doujin cover. I should've clarified that.
that is a rather nice style. Personally, if I could draw well, I'd never do porn even if I wanted to/could make money off of it - too many problems for "real" work down the line (you may say people like Urshishrueishra and Tony Taka are notable exceptions, but Langrisser and Shining Tears aren't exactly world-renowned series)
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Post by Scylla on May 3, 2009 18:50:23 GMT -5
I don't think it really hurts artists in Japan too much. You'd be surprised how many professionals started with hentai or yaoi doujinshi or even continue to do it after going pro. Usually they aren't so famous for that stuff as Urushihara is, though, so nobody really knows about their doujinshi work, at least outside of the doujinshi fan base. Still cracks me up that Minato Koio, the character designer for Star Ocean 2, went on to do a bunch of Star Ocean 2 hentai doujinshi. :P It's like... practically official hentai. And then there's the artist for Valkyrie Profile 2, who normally does hentai. Really, the industry is filled with hentai artists, if you dig deep enough to learn these things.
In fact, I think it may be more beneficial than not. If you want to get into manga or anime as a career, doujinshi is a good way to get started and hopefully get noticed, and you'll get a lot more attention for pornographic doujinshi than the normal variety, as sad as that may be. There's just more demand and interest in it, and hentai and yaoi seem to attract the best artists. From my experience with normal doujinshi, the art quality isn't quite as high on average, the circles are smaller and less prolific, and they're never as well-known among doujinshi fans. Usually the only really great normal doujinshi comes from artists that have already gone pro. Their names alone can attract attention that they wouldn't get as amateurs doing normal doujinshi.
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Post by Darxide on May 3, 2009 19:59:18 GMT -5
Just wondering, Discoalucard, would you have reacted differently had the game worked properly?
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Post by Discoalucard on May 3, 2009 20:08:00 GMT -5
Nope. A pirated good is a pirated good. If I'd wanted that I would've settled for the ripped version I'd already downloaded. The fact that it didn't work was just salt in the wound.
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