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Post by zzz on Apr 13, 2007 11:21:33 GMT -5
Ok, just played that Power Rangers fighter again. There are definitely similiarities. It is still VERY different however. It seems like they either based it on that engine, or that they completely rebuilt that engine for GWED.
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Post by sandrock on Apr 13, 2007 12:36:31 GMT -5
options screens look almost identical the same level customization in versus mode look at those flashing sparks! beleive me, these games look even more similar in action. also, check the credits: Power Rangers the Fighting edition: Executive Producer - Takeshi Yasukawa Producer - Jeff Rotter Chief designer - Shunichi Taniguchi Designer - Kunio Suzuki Programmer - Toshiyasu Miyabe Programmer - Hiromichi Komuro Sound - Hiroyuki Iwatsuki Sound - Haruo Ohashi Gundam Wing Endless Duel: Executive Producer - Kazumasa Ogata Executive Producer - Makoto Asanuma Producer - Norihiko Ushimura Planner - Sunichi Taniguchi Programmer - Toshiyasu Miyabe Programmer - Hiromichi Komuro Designer - Sunichi Taniguchi Designer - Kunio Suzuki Sound - Hiroyuki Iwatsuki Sound - Haruo Ohashi It seems that the core developement team is the same for both of them. I'm sure, they just reused game engine for Gundam Wing!
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Post by sandrock on Apr 13, 2007 12:52:41 GMT -5
I've read the preliminary article once againg, and was a little bit confused, when read this: "EX Revue is Bandai's answer to Banpresto's horrible fighting game, and surprisingly, they did a much better job at it."But how about THIS?!:
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Post by Jaeger on Apr 13, 2007 13:31:50 GMT -5
Those games are definetly the work of the same team. Same sprite styles (even down to the timing of the animations and stances), same font, and menu formats, and extremely similar movesets. Hell, the staff is almost identical aswell, so that proves it. XD
And I've all but given up the "Turn A Gundam" comment argument. It's futile to further the discussion, it seems. So let's just continue on in making the article better.
With that said, we need to make sure any comment about sprites being segmented in Endless Duel, or any other Gundam fighter other than the Battle Assault series be omitted. I've always shown that to be false.
Also, if someone needs me to grab some screenshots, I'll be happy to. Just say the word.
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Apr 14, 2007 0:44:19 GMT -5
I've read the preliminary article once againg, and was a little bit confused, when read this: "EX Revue is Bandai's answer to Banpresto's horrible fighting game, and surprisingly, they did a much better job at it."But how about THIS?!: Yeah, I meant to remove that from the first draft before I sent it. KLOV had EX Revue listed as "Developed by Bandai" rather than Banpresto.
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Post by natabuu on Apr 14, 2007 3:35:58 GMT -5
However, calling it "one of the best" is an opinion, not a fact. ... But that statement, as well as its inverse, don't really belong in the article. Almost every author in every article on this site has projected their opinion onto the material they're writing about. I didn't hear you guys complain when the Captain Novilin article repeatedly mentioned how bad the game sucked. Is that true? Well, it's a popular opinion, but still just and opinion. You can't take a neutral stance on everything. It's just not interesting. You might as well go to Wikipedia. I think any writer of any article should write about the material from a neutral standpoint and then give their opinion on it at the end of the article, which is largely what I do. You'll note that when I say "Gundam SEED is by far one of the best", that's at the end of the introduction to Gundam SEED. Likewise, when I get down to saying a game I write an article for is good or bad, that's also usually at the very end of the article. Oh, I don't have any problems with opinions in HG101 articles. They often make things more interesting. I was just trying to add another perspective to the discussion. My main point was that since that one line was contentious among two of the article's authors, it might help to rewrite it in a way that they could agree on. edit: Oops, didn't mean to beat a dead horse. The Google ads after the first post of this page made me think that it was the most recent post.
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Post by Discoalucard on Apr 18, 2007 18:23:20 GMT -5
OK, I'd like to finish this up, so here's where the article is at: hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/gundam/gundam.htmThe biggest things I need are: (1) Character descriptions for Battle Assault 2. There are something like thirty characters in this game. We needn't bother with most of the G Gundam and Gundam Wing characters, since they should be mostly identical to earlier games. But there are plenty of characters/mechs that haven't appeared in other games. Please provide character portraits. (2) Any other differences between Battle Master 2 and Battle Assault. Does it have different characters? This all needs clarification, and elaboration if necessary. (3) Since this has been written by several different authors, I need to know what's redundant, what needs to be kept, what needs to be fixed, etc. Were vulcans introduced in Endless Duel, or were they in G Gundam too? Stuff like that. I'm not too familiar with Gundam so it's up to you guys to make sure this is all accurate. (4) Also need a "conclusion" paragraph briefly detailing some of the other Gundam games. Like maybe why Gundam Battle Assault 3 is not included, since it's not a 2D fighter. Thanks!
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Apr 19, 2007 11:08:38 GMT -5
I've read through the article and nothing appears to be redundant. Yes, indeed, vulcans were introduced in ED.
As for the other stuff, I haven't really played much of the other Gundam games. Aside from the aformentioned Battle Assault 3, there's a Z Gundam SRPG and a V Gundam action game for Super Fami, a Gundam SEED RPG for GBA, a whole series of vs. games for arcade/PS2, and a collection of SD games that borders on infinite.
I think the best person for some this would be Kairi.
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Post by Allie on Apr 19, 2007 22:08:56 GMT -5
Battle Assault actually used the pilots from the TV shows, as opposed to the Battle-Master specific cast.... I don't know if that was already mentioned or not, though...
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Post by Gilder on Apr 20, 2007 9:18:15 GMT -5
Sorry for the long delay, but awesome work ZZZ for finally getting an article (initially) for Endless Duel. One of the greatest fighters ever.
Looking good overall for the bigger Gundam article. I've never been a real fan of the series (not that big on anime) but it looks good so far.
Shouldn't you at least have a comparasion screenshots of Endless Duel and PW: Fighting Edition that is point out in the end of the Endless Duel part? Might be informative, especially the pics taken from sandrock.
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Post by Discoalucard on Apr 20, 2007 9:21:43 GMT -5
Battle Assault actually used the pilots from the TV shows, as opposed to the Battle-Master specific cast.... I don't know if that was already mentioned or not, though... Yeah but which pilots? I'm guessing they're from Gundam Wing...?
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Post by sandrock on Apr 20, 2007 10:48:31 GMT -5
The only pilot from Gundam Wing is Heero. All the rest are from the UC universe (Gundam, Z Gundam, ZZ Gundam series)
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Post by Shinigami on Apr 20, 2007 11:01:43 GMT -5
What about Treize and Valdor? Valdor didn't even appear in the TV show. He only shows up in a Wing manga (which manga it is I'm not sure).
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Post by Jaeger on Apr 20, 2007 11:42:32 GMT -5
He only shows up in a Wing manga (which manga it is I'm not sure). G-UNIT. More specificly, New Mobile Report Gundam Wing Dual Story: G-UNIT (Japan), and released in the states as Mobile Suit Gundam: The Last Outpost
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Post by Shinigami on Apr 20, 2007 14:53:47 GMT -5
The only pilot from Gundam Wing is Heero. All the rest are from the UC universe (Gundam, Z Gundam, ZZ Gundam series) While most of the characters in Battle Assualt are from UC, there are quite a few characters which don't have portraits and descriptions yet. Kamille, Judau, Haman, Doyzle, Gato, Shiro, Denim, Ple Two, Mikhail, Scirocco, and Akahana. That's a lot of characters to leave out.
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