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Post by kimimi on Mar 3, 2010 5:17:46 GMT -5
My mum had me in her early twenties. I was married by the time I was 23 and had my son in my mid twenties. A good parent is a good parent - you get idiots at any age.
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Post by justjustin on Mar 3, 2010 9:14:08 GMT -5
That statement is dangerously correct, kimimi. You might want to consider revising it to affirm that all young people are stupid and only old people should have kids (but yes, I knew someone would be smart enough to point that out. and from a mom, no less!)
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Post by kimimi on Mar 3, 2010 9:35:45 GMT -5
Sorry, it's just that I bust a gut making sure my little guy is a happy, healthy, individual so I tend to get defensive when parenting issues are brought up
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2010 14:45:19 GMT -5
Sorry, it's just that I bust a gut making sure my little guy is a happy, healthy, individual so I tend to get defensive when parenting issues are brought up I'd say you're in the minority when it comes to most people who've had kids at a young age. Perhaps it's a case of glass half full / half-empty, but I'm just going by experience. Hell, my own mother is a perfect example. She had my sisters when she was 19, divorced their father, had me out of wedlock with a drug dealer, he split, and she raised us on welfare. By all rights, she never should have had any of us. But them's the breaks. You're an inspiring example, though. You find time to be both a good parent and a hardcore gamer. If only you weren't a limey...
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Post by camanchi on Mar 3, 2010 14:55:02 GMT -5
I'd say you are an exception. But that is definitely great. I have just yet to see one young parent who provided their child with stability.
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Post by Catalyst on Mar 4, 2010 3:26:46 GMT -5
Where I come from, it seems to break down half and half. I've seen just as many irresponsible young couples as the mature ones. It's what one expects to see.
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Post by Weasel on Mar 4, 2010 14:48:24 GMT -5
Alright, I apologize for making my generalization earlier...I guess what scares me is the "irresponsible" side as Catalyst mentioned, rather than the fact in itself that there are people my age that have children. Hell, some people say I'm a lot more mature than my age, so I don't know why I said what I said earlier.
Which reminds me. I was at my fast food restaurant of choice last night, enjoying my fries and milkshake, when the big table in the middle of the room (consisting of approximately six roughly pre-teen children and one horrifyingly passive mother) started an uproar. The kids kept yelling things randomly, I overheard them saying things about how apparently well-endowed they were, and one of them then swore loudly enough to carry across the building. I was extremely tempted to start an outburst of my own, likely of the "I am trying to enjoy my food so please keep it down" variety, but then I decided that should these ruffianic boys decide to be violent, there was no way I'd be able to fight back against six of them, so I just sat there and ate the rest of my (decidedly less enjoyable) fries and milkshake.
I don't think the mom ever did anything the whole time. She didn't care that her kids were randomly yelling "BITCH!" across the room.
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Post by Mr. Faptastic on Mar 4, 2010 18:25:48 GMT -5
I was extremely tempted to start an outburst of my own, likely of the "I am trying to enjoy my food so please keep it down" variety, but then I decided that should these ruffianic boys decide to be violent, there was no way I'd be able to fight back against six of them But on the other hand, imagine how fucking magnificent it would have been if you pulled out some one-in-a-million Bruce Lee kick and knocked like half of them stone cold in one go. That shit would have been legendary.
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Post by Atma on Mar 4, 2010 20:13:12 GMT -5
Sorry Kimimi, no offense, but in my experience, you are most definitely in the minority.
I grew up in a most lovely area, except for the fact I lived in a mobile home park that attracted infinite amounts of white trash (and from what I hear, it still does). Every girl aged 12-21 had either had a kid/multiple kids, an abortion/multiple ones, were currently pregnant, or any combo thereof at any given time. Yeah, 12. That's not a typo. I am certain I am still the only exception to this rule in the history of the place. It's as if safe sex just did not exist. If they gave birth, they started doing speed. Every damn time. It never failed. They were the kind to drink and smoke during pregnancy as well. All their kids grew up and became serious assholes and were bullies as kids.
Another example is my own mother, who I have expounded on before as being a terrible human being all around, who had me when she was younger than I am now. (I'm 23. She had me when she was 21.) I'm a bastard child and she curses me for her lifelong unhappiness and constantly reminds me how she tried to abort me. Way to parent. Of course I never took any of her bullshit to stock and just ignore her existence most of the time, but that's still an extremely shitty thing to do.
Most parents around here are terrible, and let their kids knock shit over, cry nonstop, be rude to strangers, sit in the middle of aisles, read manga in the middle of the bookstore and devour entire volumes without paying (last time I went to an actual bookstore, all the copies of the volume of manga I wanted were covered in snot.), take their kids to fancy grown-up restaurants where they whine and throw food around, and generally just don't fucking own up to being a parent.
There should be international laws against this sort of idiocy.
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Post by Weasel on Mar 4, 2010 20:21:39 GMT -5
There should be international laws against this sort of idiocy. Well, technically there are laws intended to prevent people from having sex with said 12-year-olds (which would in theory prevent said children from being born), but the problem is that they, without exception, treat the "mother" as the victim and only punish the "father" (and even then only if the victim decides to press charges, if I recall - I am not a lawyer, I just play one in a video game). And then there's child services, who are legally entitled to take away children from very bad parents, but of course like all other portions of the law, they kind of need a reason to first (i.e. evidence).
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Post by America Young Fusion on Mar 5, 2010 23:57:49 GMT -5
I dunno if I mentioned this already but, I still hate people who narrate walkthroughs on Youtube. It's so strange, it's like I have turrets syndrome, I scream like a maniac the minute the nerd starts talking: "YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH friendGOT FUCK YOU I'M NOT HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU I HOPE YOUR MOM GETS AIDS YOU STUPID FUCKING COCKSUCKER‼"
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Post by camanchi on Mar 6, 2010 2:11:39 GMT -5
^That bugs me too. It's so distracting.
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Post by kal on Mar 6, 2010 4:34:47 GMT -5
So I open the door and woah...wait no I don't gee that was strange lets just walk down this corridor and see what's going on...oh man a zombie I guess I better shoot it or something man this game so scary boy it sure is good.
Yeah I hate talking over LPs - with exceptions like that aboslutely BRILLIANT Trespasser Lets Play.
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Post by Atma on Mar 6, 2010 5:47:33 GMT -5
Yeah I hate talking over LPs - with exceptions like that aboslutely BRILLIANT Trespasser Lets Play. Quoted for truth for fucking ever.
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Post by Ike on Mar 6, 2010 12:38:00 GMT -5
The Trespasser LP is one of the few that I've watched more than once. I wanna give that guy a hug *-*
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