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Otocky
Aug 29, 2009 16:53:13 GMT -5
Post by Discoalucard on Aug 29, 2009 16:53:13 GMT -5
www.hardcoregaming101.net/otocky/otocky.htmThis is a musical shooter (??!) for the Famicom Disk System by Toshio Iwai, who later went on to do Elecktroplankton for the Nintendo DS. Very interesting game. The author submitted pictures captured straight from the FDS, so they're not quite as clear as an emulator capture, but are more authentic. I might still stick in a few emulator caps anyway at the bottom.
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Otocky
Aug 29, 2009 17:06:28 GMT -5
Post by ReyVGM on Aug 29, 2009 17:06:28 GMT -5
Not to be annoying, but if you are going to put videos on the articles, I think you should upload them to your own account.
I hate going to an article 6 months later and finding that the videos are dead. If they are on your account, it is guaranteed that they won't be removed.
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Otocky
Aug 29, 2009 18:08:37 GMT -5
Post by Discoalucard on Aug 29, 2009 18:08:37 GMT -5
That's what I'm thinking too. I heard Vimeo's been cracking down on game videos...?
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Otocky
Aug 29, 2009 18:16:14 GMT -5
Post by zzz on Aug 29, 2009 18:16:14 GMT -5
This is one of the craziest, most insane, most HG101 worthy games ever made. This article is long overdue.
Also, imbeded video sucks.
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Otocky
Aug 29, 2009 19:05:46 GMT -5
Post by zzz on Aug 29, 2009 19:05:46 GMT -5
It might be worth pointing out that the first paragraph is full of questionable statements.
Designed for the sole purpose of exploring the full potential of the system,
I highly doubt that's why it was developed.
this 2.8" x 3" floppy disk operated unit allowed players to benefit from a number of advantages, one of them being the ability to create larger games featuring a much needed save function – unlike the early Read Only Memory cartridges. Games such as the The Legend of Zelda would not have been possible at the time if not for the Disk System, as the battery saving function would only appear some time later.
1: I highly doubt anybody bought a FDS because of "larger file sizes".
2: I think Zelda would (probably) have been possible with the Famicom Data Recorder.
And, in time, the technology behind the production of cartridges, often using custom chips, evolved to a point where the use of floppy disks was dispensable, rendering the FDS obsolete.
The real purpose of FDS was CONVENIENCE FOR CONSUMERS. The first way it did this was by lowering costs. The second way was with an alternative distribution system where you would buy blank disks and have the games written to them at vending machines. It retained these advantages even after the cartridges became more powerful, so that could hardly be said to have "rendered it obsolete".
I don't have any problem with the paragraph as is, and I'm not suggesting that it be changed, but I just figured that these things were worth bringing up.
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Otocky
Aug 29, 2009 19:18:21 GMT -5
Post by ReyVGM on Aug 29, 2009 19:18:21 GMT -5
That's what I'm thinking too. I heard Vimeo's been cracking down on game videos...? If the video is in .flv, save it in your computer and upload it to a youtube account. You can use Firefox's DownloadHelper plugin for that.
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Otocky
Aug 29, 2009 21:32:19 GMT -5
Post by derboo on Aug 29, 2009 21:32:19 GMT -5
1: I highly doubt anybody bought a FDS because of "larger file sizes". 2: I think Zelda would (probably) have been possible with the Famicom Data Recorder. (...) The first way it did this was by lowering costs. This really works in combination. It's not that bigger cartridges weren't possible to begin with, they just were too expensive. And as those dropped in price, it made development for the FDS less attractive (though I agree "obsolete" is a bit much). Same for batteries. Also, imbeded video sucks. I agree. I'd vote for it to be turned into a link.
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Otocky
Aug 30, 2009 0:22:53 GMT -5
Post by wyrdwad on Aug 30, 2009 0:22:53 GMT -5
Very unique-sounding game, to be sure! One thing that may be worth mentioning, though, is the etymology of the game's name... "otakki" is a colloquial version of the word "otaku", and is apparently the more common way of saying "otaku" (at least in Miyagi prefecture up north, which is where I lived and worked for 2 years - I was constantly "corrected" whenever I said the word otaku, told that the proper way to say it was "otakki").
And "otaku", which has come to mean "anime fan" in the U.S., has more of a negative connotation in Japan - it's more like "obsessive fan", or "fanboy", and does NOT necessarily refer to anime (you can be an otaku/otakki of ANYTHING, as long as you're completely and utterly obsessed with it - and in this case, I suspect Iwai may have been describing himself, as a music otakki!).
So the game is essentially called "Fanboy", just... spelled all Englishy. (:
-Tom
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Otocky
Aug 30, 2009 10:00:44 GMT -5
Post by mewchu on Aug 30, 2009 10:00:44 GMT -5
I've heard of this game, actually. It's pretty cool. Question though, what's the significane of the Japanese lady on the box? 0_o
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Otocky
Aug 30, 2009 11:39:06 GMT -5
Post by justjustin on Aug 30, 2009 11:39:06 GMT -5
Cool tidbit, wyrdwad, I'll keep that in mind. This is just a guess, but I assume otakki is used more to describe a quality (geeky, freakish) as opposed to otaku which is just "a geek" or "a freak?" Or maybe there's just no difference, really...
Anyway, I like the screenshots for the game. They're a nice change of pace with those interlaced lines and TV-like picture compared to the usual "pixel perfect" screens.
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Otocky
Aug 30, 2009 16:44:30 GMT -5
Post by wyrdwad on Aug 30, 2009 16:44:30 GMT -5
As far as I was told, "otakki" and "otaku" are interchangeable, with "otakki" being the more commonly-used word (according to them northerners, anyway!). (:
-Tom
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Otocky
Aug 31, 2009 10:53:14 GMT -5
Post by Jave on Aug 31, 2009 10:53:14 GMT -5
I've wanted to play this for ages, but can't get the rom to work for some reason. As some of you know, Electroplankton was a fascination of mine for quite some time.
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Otocky
Aug 31, 2009 17:34:55 GMT -5
Post by ReyVGM on Aug 31, 2009 17:34:55 GMT -5
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Otocky
Sept 1, 2009 13:58:13 GMT -5
Post by dieubussy on Sept 1, 2009 13:58:13 GMT -5
It might be worth pointing out that the first paragraph is full of questionable statements. First of all I need to clarify that I exchanged some e-mails with Mr. Iwai some time ago and it was his account of the facts that led to most of what was written in that first paragraph. I value his account over anything else in this matter – either wikis or magazines. I believe some points might be questionable, and I’m open to discuss them and even change them should that be the case. Any reason you can pick up in order to account for Nintendo’s decision to manufacture the FDS will always have to do with expressing more out of the system’s potential, whether that results, naturally, on increased convenience, fun, entertainment, economy or anything else. Surely it was much more convenient for users to benefit from a save a file rather than use password systems. Or from cheaper games. I think that is clear enough. As for the possibility of Zelda in FDR it's merely an assumption. It might have been possible or not – which is irrelevant to me in this case and not much of a help. The sales index of the FDS went down at the same time cartridges remained the leading format in games distribution. I've had the chance to verify this on more than one occasion with Nintendo and ex-Nintendo personnel: whereas the cartridge technology became expandable, and was adopted by Nintendo for two more generations of consoles, the floppy disks suffered from their own limitations. Iwai said he felt “disappointed by the fact that the technology in FDS could have continued but the improvements in cartridge technology made (disks) less and less essential with time" – although he was glad he used the FDS. Also there is the question of how Nintendo protected their games from piracy using Cartridges, whereas the FDS was an "open door to game copies which hurt small sized studios like ours". Further in that same statement he says: "Nintendo (and I) got several complaints about how the disks would easily be damaged, more so than cartridges, as well as the waiting times” – I assume he meant loading times. You present very good points related to the FDS, namely the usage of blank disks for saving games. Surely you acknowledge that the same principle was used with blank cartridges too, namely special and limited editions of games that were only available in vending points. Only cartridges were safer and more durable and that was, along with other aspects I couldn’t afford to cram into the text, determinant in the demise of the add-on. The other fact is that the FDS dies around 1990 – with a few titles released in ’91 – and the Famicom Cartridge survives at least four more years beyond that. Maybe obsolete is a harsh word, so I’ll recommend the text should be changed. It was just an attempt to make a long story short anyway. Thank you all for helping me improve it Furthermore I suggest that ZZZ should plug his own FDS to the TV and record a great new Otocky video so we can all enjoy it! (it was SIMPLY A GAMEPLAY DEMONSTRATION, not a "best of Otocky" video, ok?)
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Otocky
Sept 1, 2009 14:34:27 GMT -5
Post by dieubussy on Sept 1, 2009 14:34:27 GMT -5
I've heard of this game, actually. It's pretty cool. Question though, what's the significane of the Japanese lady on the box? 0_o Well... I always do my homework so here it goes. dieubussy.web.simplesnet.pt/otockyback.jpgHer name is Ozawa Natsuki and she is what the japanese call Aidoru (Idol). She's a pretty lady who can sing/act and she's on the cover of the game for promotional reasons. Here's her (Japanese) wikipedia page: " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B0%8F%E6%B2%A2%E3%81%AA%E3%81%A4%E3%81%And a fan site: www.angelfire.com/id2/enyalios/frontdoor.htmlShe has her profile on the back of the cover and there's a poster of her in the box. Pure publicity. I think they often did this in Japan relating games to Idols in order to sell a little extra. I've read that she's appeared on a number o Adult DVDs recently (which in Japan is not the same as pornography as you know). Someone should add this info to the Otocky Wikipedia page if there is one... Cheers!
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