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Post by Discoalucard on Dec 17, 2007 22:08:31 GMT -5
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Post by CRV on Dec 17, 2007 23:22:23 GMT -5
Meldac was a publisher. The Super Pinball games were developed by KAZe, who later developed Last Gladiators and Necronomicon on the Saturn.
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Post by zzz on Dec 18, 2007 2:47:59 GMT -5
Two of the greatest games ever made. Awesome.
Last paragraph of the intro, fourth sentence:
"Both have three tables - each diplayed at an isometric angle via some pretty decent scaling effects for the balls."
Isometric is where you are looking "into" the corner of a cube, like in Mario RPG. Does anybody have any clue what the proper name for the perspective that these games are viewed from is?
Im not 100% certain, but I believe I made a mistake with the term LCD. I'm pretty sure LCD is what you call the kind of display for digital clocks. Is anybody aware of what the light up displays of pinball machines are called? "LCD" shows up in the descriptions of Jolly Joker and Showtime, and the last paragraph about the first game. "Light up display" might be best if there isn't a specific term for those kinds of displays.
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Post by Shellshock on Dec 18, 2007 5:41:19 GMT -5
Two of the greatest games ever made. Awesome. Last paragraph of the intro, fourth sentence: "Both have three tables - each diplayed at an isometric angle via some pretty decent scaling effects for the balls." Isometric is where you are looking "into" the corner of a cube, like in Mario RPG. Does anybody have any clue what the proper name for the perspective that these games are viewed from is? Im not 100% certain, but I believe I made a mistake with the term LCD. I'm pretty sure LCD is what you call the kind of display for digital clocks. Is anybody aware of what the light up displays of pinball machines are called? "LCD" shows up in the descriptions of Jolly Joker and Showtime, and the last paragraph about the first game. "Light up display" might be best if there isn't a specific term for those kinds of displays. Although a seemingly deceptive oblique projection type of view at first, you should go with "bird's eye/ aerial" perspective. Oblique projections' viewing angles are always different than zero. www.mtsu.edu/~csjudy/planeview3D/tutorial-parallel.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird%27s-eye_viewLCD stands for "liquid crystal display", which of course involves liquid crystal in the first place. Old pinball displays are made of glass filament bulbs and are expensive to replace. "Dot matrix" displays (just like in the original GameBoy) used in newer pinball machines are generally made using gas bulbs as opposed to LEDs or conventional filament bulbs.
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Post by zzz on Dec 18, 2007 7:07:54 GMT -5
I just looked through a pinball glossary. What I meant to say was LED, but I had that confused with dot matrix. So every "LCD display" should be changed to "dot matrix display".
Also, I looked into the perspective thing, and it should be "aerial perspective", not "bird's-eye". So just change "isometric" to "aerial perspective".
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Post by Kyrael Seraphine on Dec 18, 2007 8:09:24 GMT -5
No mention of Epic Pinball? Aww.
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Post by zzz on Dec 18, 2007 8:36:04 GMT -5
That old game for DOS with the robot themed table? Never really got into that. Mind you, it was the best pinball game for DOS at the time, but still...
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Post by Discoalucard on Dec 18, 2007 8:59:09 GMT -5
No mention of Epic Pinball? Aww. Wasn't that Extreme Pinball or something? I forget the name. There were a number of tables, but I only had a demo with one of them. It had MOD music, so it was pretty cool. I'll make the corrections when I get home.
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Post by zzz on Dec 18, 2007 9:55:49 GMT -5
I made a slight mistake in the paragraph about Space Sister:
"To the lower left there is a pocket that will activate a roulette, and to the immediate right of the entrance to the leftmost flipper is a pocket that is blocked by a target."
What I meant to write was:
"To the lower left there is a pocket that will activate a roulette, and to the immediate right of the leftmost ramp is a pocket that is blocked by a target."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2007 13:58:23 GMT -5
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Post by zzz on Dec 18, 2007 14:13:50 GMT -5
Those are ok, but what I recommended is what I consider the absolute best of the genre.
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Post by zzz on Dec 19, 2007 3:10:50 GMT -5
The comment about the "entrance to the leftmost flipper" hasn't been changed.
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Post by brianc on Dec 19, 2007 11:17:24 GMT -5
Those are ok, but what I recommended is what I consider the absolute best of the genre. I feel some of the choices are far from the best of the genre. Don't the Gottlieb collections have some issues with physics? I feel this article should be expanded to cover Last Gladiators and Necronomicon for the Saturn, since they are also from Kaze. I haven't played either myself, but I have generally heard good things, especially about Necronomicon.
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Post by zzz on Dec 19, 2007 12:28:44 GMT -5
Both Super Pinball games, Battle Pinball, the Kirby pinball game, the first three Crush Pinball games, and any post-Trinstan Pinball table by Little Wing are my absolute favorites. I was looking for others to recommend, so I chose the other two because they have really great tables.
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Post by brianc on Dec 19, 2007 15:50:11 GMT -5
No mention of Epic Pinball? Aww. Wasn't that Extreme Pinball or something? I forget the name. There were a number of tables, but I only had a demo with one of them. It had MOD music, so it was pretty cool. I'll make the corrections when I get home. There is both an Epic and Extreme Pinball. Extreme Pinball is like a sequel or follow up to Epic Pinball. Epic Pinball was shareware. There is also another game called Silverball from the same developers which is similar in gameplay. I heard Necronomicon is better than both SNES Super Pinball games. Both Necronomicon and Last Gladiators are rather obscure. They are also rather cheap to get a hold of, though there is a special version of Last Gladiators that is harder to find. They are still 2D zoom view like the SNES Super Pinball games too. Kaze also did a Power Rangers Pinball/Power Rangers Zeo Full Tilt Battle Pinball for PSX and Akira Psychoball for PS2.
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