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Post by TheGunheart on Nov 24, 2009 0:49:23 GMT -5
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Post by Warchief Onyx on Nov 24, 2009 0:57:31 GMT -5
True if awesome, especially for Ys Seven. Though I hope the Legend of Heroes games get a different publisher besides Namco Bandai. They butchered those poor LoH games already put out here.
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Post by kimimi on Nov 24, 2009 1:38:06 GMT -5
I hope it's more Vantage Master and Sora no Kiseki rather than Ys - that series gets enough attention as it is, it'd be nice if people started to see Falcom as more than a single series.
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Post by TheGunheart on Nov 24, 2009 2:19:19 GMT -5
I want them all.
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Post by susanismyalias on Nov 24, 2009 3:05:12 GMT -5
I'm excited for Brandish, AND Sora no Kiseki or whatever.
PSP don't hurt any of this.
God, it's been so hard for me to game seriously on consoles lately. Any mediocre game on a portable system and I'm sold though.
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Post by Feynman on Nov 24, 2009 4:13:32 GMT -5
I think I just ruined a pair of pants.
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Post by derboo on Nov 24, 2009 5:46:28 GMT -5
I could really only care if the PC versions get localized as well.
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Post by wyrdwad on Nov 24, 2009 5:50:19 GMT -5
(prepares resume in Japanese and English, ready to strike as soon as a publisher is revealed)
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-Tom
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Post by shion on Nov 24, 2009 7:06:01 GMT -5
I'm all for this, but has Falcom actually looked at the health of the NA/EU (I'm assuming the lattere, but then the cost goes way up w/ that lovely panoply of languages) PSP market these days? (And don't get me wrong: I want these, but I can't imagine, unless these all go DL-only, how Falcom could possibly make any money on this unless, maybe, Sony's giving out some really terrific terms these days...and I guess they very well could be.)
P.S. Is anyone using Ad Hoc Party? I'd love to get a little MHFU or PSP going if only to actually try them in MP for once but the scene is, to put it mildly, pretty dead. (Not a surprise given some of the silly requirements Sony has put in place.)
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Post by wyrdwad on Nov 24, 2009 7:32:35 GMT -5
If they're going through a third-party publisher, then it's basically just free money for Falcom - it's whoever's doing the publishing that has to really worry about sales. But for some of these games, like Ys Seven, I don't think there's much to worry about - the amount of dialogue in Ys Seven is entirely manageable and wouldn't require an overage of time or money to translate, and the game is absolutely fantastic, AND has some degree of name recognition going for it. It's pretty much a guaranteed profit, as games go. Even Brandish: The Dark Revenant and Vantage Master Portable would be profitable, I think, since there's barely any dialogue in either game at all - they could each be translated in a week, or in a day with a dedicated staff (or one dude working a half-day, in the case of Brandish).  They'd be cheap as hell to localize. Zwei!! would be a risk, but not much of one - there's still a lot more gameplay than there is dialogue, and the cutesy anime style would surely appeal to a wide enough market to make the game profitable, especially if a company like Atlus did the publishing. The only really risky titles are the Sora no Kiseki games, since they've got INSANE amounts of text that would need translating. Those... would be a gamble, to be sure. -Tom |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2009 8:21:38 GMT -5
I take anything I can get in English, be it Ys, Brandish, Vantage Master, Zwei!!, or Sora no Kiseki games. They're all good.  |
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Post by shion on Nov 24, 2009 8:41:50 GMT -5
If they're going through a third-party publisher, then it's basically just free money for Falcom - it's whoever's doing the publishing that has to really worry about sales. But for some of these games, like Ys Seven, I don't think there's much to worry about - the amount of dialogue in Ys Seven is entirely manageable and wouldn't require an overage of time or money to translate, and the game is absolutely fantastic, AND has some degree of name recognition going for it. It's pretty much a guaranteed profit, as games go. Even Brandish: The Dark Revenant and Vantage Master Portable would be profitable, I think, since there's barely any dialogue in either game at all - they could each be translated in a week, or in a day with a dedicated staff (or one dude working a half-day, in the case of Brandish). They'd be cheap as hell to localize. Zwei!! would be a risk, but not much of one - there's still a lot more gameplay than there is dialogue, and the cutesy anime style would surely appeal to a wide enough market to make the game profitable, especially if a company like Atlus did the publishing. The only really risky titles are the Sora no Kiseki games, since they've got INSANE amounts of text that would need translating. Those... would be a gamble, to be sure. -Tom \ Actually, the bulk of the financial concern would not be the relatively negligible localization costs (trust me: I know what some of the in-house guys at some of the more prominent localizers make and, man, it isn't pretty, though it gets more complex w/ testing, etc., when you take the EU into account), but with the costs of goods themselves and any marketing spend (though I guess that it would be somewhere between nil and non-existent for Falcom games). Which is why I think direct DL is probably the only sane option for these games since there are no Falcom fans in America and unless some lunatic 3rd party is going to spend piles of cash getting the word out about what is, essentially, all new IPs, they'd be nuts to go any other way. (And by "no Falcom fans" let's not split hairs about the fact that there aren't many.) |
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Post by Ganelon on Nov 24, 2009 10:02:51 GMT -5
Yeah, sounds like PSN ports. I wonder how well those have been doing though. It doesn't seem Badman got enough sales. And I really don't see them making any budge into the domestic portable JRPG market at this time either, a market that many current localizers have already stated is going south.
Although Namco Bandai shouldered the earlier Gagharv Trilogy, all accounts say it was a flop. Ys VII probably makes the most sense but Ys VI didn't sell well either on PSP... I imagine they'll go for something safe and simple like Brandish to put on PSN and gauge interest, but will anybody bite?
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Post by wyrdwad on Nov 24, 2009 21:23:12 GMT -5
Gurumin apparently sold extremely well on PSP, though, and was Mastiff's most successful title since La Pucelle. Not that it had much competition... but still, it apparently did well enough to be profitable for them, even before they released it on PSN.
I theorize that Ys VI on PSP didn't sell well because it was such a shoddy port, and the Gagharv games didn't sell well because they had basically been ruined by Bandai. If they were actually games of high quality, like pretty much every game RPGamer mentioned, I think they would've been at least reasonably profitable.
And clearly, Tear of Vermillion had to have sold well on PSP, for Bandai to have bothered bringing the other two out.
-Tom
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Post by Ganelon on Nov 25, 2009 16:03:04 GMT -5
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They'd be cheap as hell to localize.
