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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2006 15:47:37 GMT -5
I'm really starting to get hooked to FPS games, and I wondered if anybody could tell me anything about any of these ones:
Serious Sam Timesplitters Deus Ex Far Cry Painkiller
I especially want to know if the XBOX version of Painkiller is worth picking up and if it is better or worse than the PC one, as I hear that it's different from the original. I would also like to know if Deus Ex on the PS2 is better or worse than the PC original, and if it is a good alternative. My PC isn't the best at running modern games, so I'm trying to get the console versions when I can.
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Post by Weasel on Mar 19, 2006 20:04:35 GMT -5
Serious Sam - This one's a great Doom-like game, but it has its own style of action. While Doom and later id Software games put the emphasis on more powerful single enemies, Serious Sam throws hundreds of weaker enemies at you at once. The weapons are kinda fun but nothing new or interesting.
Timesplitters - The first one's got some good multiplayer action and a map editor, but singleplayer is lacking. The second one has better singleplayer and more multiplayer, and the map editor has more features. But Future Perfect is the best in the series, with an actual campaign to play in single player, more challenges to fight through, and way more multiplayer. These are awesome games.
Deus Ex - The PS2 version is only different from the PC version in that it has higher polygon models. From what I've heard, the controls are more confusing and they tend to bog down the game. The system requirements on the PC version aren't too high anyway (I can run the game quite smoothly at 640x480 32-bit color with all details on a Pentium 3 550 MHz with 128 MB RAM and a TNT 2 video card).
Far Cry - This game is the ultimate test of your computer's hardware - if you turn up the graphics. As a benchmark: my current system (a Pentium 4, 3.0 GHz, 512 MB RAM, GeForce FX 5200, Windows XP) can run the game at 1024x768, with most details at minimum (and High texture details). Your mileage may vary (my system is actually quite a bit slower than others with similar hardware for some reason).
Painkiller - I've only ever played the PC demo. It takes ages for it to load here so I never got much of a chance to play the actual game.
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Post by zellsf on Mar 20, 2006 10:09:25 GMT -5
Stay FAR away from the PS2 version of Deus Ex, it has better graphics, sure.
But it also has streamlined levels (which by the way, are worse than the original levels), FMVs (which are worse than the original cutscenes made with the game engine), no entering of stuff in keypads and computers, four times the loading times...
It has an orchestral version of the title theme, the game might be worth it for that, but nothing else. Get the PC version.
Painkiller gets way to repetive, Serious Sam isn't that bad in that area though.
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Post by Discoalucard on Mar 20, 2006 15:19:28 GMT -5
I played through the PS2 version of Deus Ex and I was okay with it - although I never played the PC version to compare. The only real issues I had with it were the load times and occasionally choppy frame rate. The FMVs are pretty sparse though, I think it's just the intro and endings.
Timesplitters is one of my favorite console FPSs because it actually runs at 60 frames per second, which is pretty rare. It also has an amusing sense of humor (third one in particular) and some great music. Never played the first one though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2006 15:20:56 GMT -5
So, what I'm hearing is that the PC version of Deus Ex can be easily run? Alrighty... guess I'll make an exception for that. Thanks, fellas. Next question: I think my PC can manage Deus Ex, and even if not, it probably doesn't cost much pricewise... I think. However, I'm thinking that it can't withhold Serious Sam as well, so how good is the XBOX translation of the first SS? And the XBOX has both the First and Second Encounter, am I right to assume?
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Post by Discoalucard on Mar 20, 2006 15:28:54 GMT -5
I MAY be wrong on this, but I think this is how it goes:
When released for the PC retail, it was split up into two parts. I think this is the First and Second Encounter. Both of these are included in the Serious Sam release for the Xbox. It's an okay port, I guess, but there's a lot of vertical tearing which annoys the hell out of me in FPS games.
Serious Sam: The Next Encounter (I think that's its name?) was console exclusive and only for, oddly enough, PS2 and Gamecube. It seemed okay to me, but most people seem to regard it as inferior. It's a good $10 purchase though.
Serious Sam II is a whole other deal, but it's only on the PC and Xbox. Don't know much about it though.
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Post by zellsf on Mar 20, 2006 22:02:31 GMT -5
"So, what I'm hearing is that the PC version of Deus Ex can be easily run?" Yes, but it won't look pretty, I'd easily prefer it over the PS2 version any day though.
"I think it's just the intro and endings." Correct, but to me the intro and endings are pretty important parts of a game.
"However, I'm thinking that it can't withhold Serious Sam as well" Eh, I wouldn't worry too much about that, I heard the original Serious Sam games works very well on low end PCs, not really sure, but...
As for the Next Encounter and Serious Sam 2, I think they're both inferior to the original two games, but many disagree, it seems.
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Post by aggroger on Mar 21, 2006 9:08:46 GMT -5
Serious Sam tries hard to be Doom 2,but sadly every level is just a series of arenas,with few variety and nonexistant enemy AI. Never played it... More a stealth game than an FPS,and one of my fave games.I've played on Pc tho. Never tried it... Same comment as Serious Sam.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2006 15:53:42 GMT -5
Alrighty. I will make Deus Ex for the PC one of my utmost priorities at this point. Once again, thanks to all.
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Post by MRSKELETON on Mar 21, 2006 16:55:31 GMT -5
Regardless of what everyone says, Pick up serious sam:the second encounter. It's got pretty good enemy AI and framerate for how old it is.
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Post by wil327 on Mar 21, 2006 16:58:24 GMT -5
One quick thought on Deus Ex on the PC.
Flamethrower + cat + throwing flaming cat = hilarity.
Also:
Throwing people across the room is quite a lot of fun.
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Post by zellsf on Mar 22, 2006 11:38:45 GMT -5
"More a stealth game than an FPS,and one of my fave games.I've played on Pc tho." Uh, if you played it as a stealth game, that was your choice, you could however say that it's a FPS/RPG. I sure as hell didn't play Deus Ex as a stealth game. And I played both versions
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Post by Protodude on Mar 22, 2006 16:53:36 GMT -5
Shame on you people, how could you forget the best shooter of all, Daikatana?
In all seriousness though, Half-Life 2 is by far my favorite FPS. I'm actually a bit shocked no one's mentioned it yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2006 17:29:26 GMT -5
Shame on you people, how could you forget the best shooter of all, Daikatana? In all seriousness though, Half-Life 2 is by far my favorite FPS. I'm actually a bit shocked no one's mentioned it yet. Oh, I'm gonna get HL2. Guaranteed. Considering that I was straight on hooked to the original HL when I first bought it (which was about a month ago, I've been under a bit of a rock for a while ), I have just got to play the excellent sequel to one of the most groundbreaking FPS games of all time. ;D As I said, I'm making Deus Ex something of a priority. From what I gather, it can either be played like Metal Gear, Shadowrun, or (probably the way I'm gonna go) good ol' shoot-the-hell-out-of-the-bastards Doom style. Coolie. I'll probably pick up the original Timesplitters for the PS2 and Serious Sam for the XBOX at some point. Although I hear that TS has only improved with each new installment, I'd still like to get the original, as I'm something of a completionist. As for SS on the XBOX... stoopid question, but what is "vertical tearing?"
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Post by Discoalucard on Mar 22, 2006 17:38:19 GMT -5
Vertical tearing usually happens when you move the camera around a lot and the game engine can't keep up with rendering full screens, so it just draws half the screen before starting over. This creates a tear on the screen. It usually happens on games that are locked at 60 FPS. This is a doctored photo but this is an example of what it looks like. Just imagine it in motion. It's very jittery and distruptive.
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