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Post by recap on Jun 19, 2006 17:51:50 GMT -5
I'm Sorry. I'm american though i'm strongly against calling a game it's japanese name. I don't call castlevania Akumajo Dracula i call it castlevania. It slightly irritates me when people call megaman rockman when they just call it that to pretent to be asian. So you use "Mobile Light Force" instead of "Shikigami no Shiro" and "Mobile Light Force II" instead of "Gunbird"? Try to be a bit more open-minded. Western people who use Japanese names do it because they're the original version and do know that any other form is just a 'free adaptation' made without even asking the original developers. There was an era where Japanese games weren't developed with the Western markets in mind (many companies still do), hence, Western versions were just a side event. The video-game industry hasn't been as professional as the movie or the book ones. And foreign adaptations have been almost always bad jokes done by useless people and companies. And that includes naming. It slightly irritates me when someone who gets slightly irritated because others use the original Japanese names fails to realize that he's also using "Japanese names" whenever he plays any of all those Japanese-market-only games.
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Post by Neo Rasa on Jun 19, 2006 19:47:59 GMT -5
I don't think brining up the two biggest clusterfucks in game localization history (no really, Kurt and I even called up XS Games at one point and yelled at them, it was hilarious) really refutes what he's saying. I'm sure mazinsaga is aware that he's using a Japanese name when referring to a game that was only released in Japan; I have to say I agree with him in that there are a lot of people who will only use the Japanese name of a product regardless of its localization nature just to sound more knowledgable.
In the case of SNK's games, I don't think dismissing the US names of the games should be a requirement for discussion since in every single instance, when the Japanese name is radically different it's referring to events already known even in the US iteration of the storyline anyway. In addition, with SNK and with many Japanese publishers, the US division doesn't really have any say at all in the localization process, all the decisions being made in Japan anyway. SNK is especially notorious for this.
It's not really something anyone should lay a ground rule down on one way or the other if you ask me. Rather, I'd like to think that the reasoning behind the name changes should be just as much a part of the game discussion as any other aspect.
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Post by ReyVGM on Jun 19, 2006 20:14:21 GMT -5
I think what he really meant is that it pisses him off when (for example) people say rockman when talking about Megaman as if saying rockman makes them more 'japanese' or more knowledgeable about videogames/japanese culture. And YOU KNOW there are a lot of gamers out there that would just love to be japanese (at least in the games and anime kind of way).
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Post by Shinigami on Jun 19, 2006 21:47:23 GMT -5
Is this going to be in the East vs West article?
I'd just like to say that "Samurai Shodown" rolls off the tongue a lot easier than "Samurai Spirits".
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Post by Neo Rasa on Jun 19, 2006 22:50:58 GMT -5
That's another series where it's really interesting to see the difference/similarities in the US and Japanese names. Dynasty Warriors too I guess.
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Post by shido on Jun 20, 2006 2:12:29 GMT -5
Most of the time I'm using the American name but there are some special cases. I will never call Tales of Eternia in its American name, Tales of Destiny 2. Thats stupid, Tales of Destiny 2 is a diferrent game. Or using Final Fantasy 3 instead of Final Fantasy 6, that stupid too. Or using Final Fantasy Adventure instead of Seiken Densetsu 1, or using just Fire Emblem instead of Fire Emblem 7. In those cases (and some more) I will always use the Japanese name.
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Post by necromaniac on Jun 20, 2006 6:23:29 GMT -5
potato, imo.....
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Post by Sac (a.k.a Icaras) on Jun 21, 2006 6:38:52 GMT -5
You'd also have to include KoF: Maximum Impact (The way the announced says "KOF" during the intro is HILAROUS, at least in the PAL version).
As for name differances...just use the name you know. The western names are no more wrong or right than the japanese ones. (It's not like most of us live in or even speak japanese)
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Post by munchy on Jun 30, 2006 18:58:06 GMT -5
I know it's not quite a KOF game, but include SNK vs. Capcom: Match of the Millenium. That game rocks the house.
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Post by ed on Jun 30, 2006 20:49:29 GMT -5
As for name differances...just use the name you know. The western names are no more wrong or right than the japanese ones. Heck, if I had a quarter for every time somebody's said "GAY-den" ...there's even a (very crappy) Western-developed game of the game that gets it wrong themselves. There are times that the US names hurt the continuity (though it's usually halfarsed translations or "changed for America/Germany" stuff that's the culprit, and there sometimes the Japanese developers are responsible, i.e. the lousy English in the Samurai Shodown games) - Mobile Light Force, for example - and how about Nemesis (admittedly, "Gradius" might be the Japanese counterpart of an American saying "Gayden")? Lightening Force? ANYWAY, to leave that dead horse alone for a bit, where do the Art of Fighting (err Ryuuko no Ken ) games fit in? 1992 and 1994, certainly, but I mean in terms of the storyline.
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Post by Neo Rasa on Jun 30, 2006 22:07:01 GMT -5
They take place immediately before the FF games, AoF3 however happens inbetween KoF'95 and '96.
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Post by Weasel on Jun 30, 2006 23:45:48 GMT -5
I heard the AoF games originally took place in the 70's (which would account for Geese being younger in AoF2, and Ryo being older in FF Special), but the timeline was shifted ahead twenty years to better fit in with the KoF series.
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Post by YourAverageJoe on Jul 1, 2006 5:32:36 GMT -5
I know it's not quite a KOF game, but include SNK vs. Capcom: Match of the Millenium. That game rocks the house. A game more related to SNK would be SvC: Chaos - SNK versus Capcom. That game was much more SNK-ey than the others.
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Post by Discoalucard on Jul 1, 2006 9:28:06 GMT -5
I thought about it, but the article is already pretty long. If you include one of the other versus games, then technically you have to do the others (SvC Chaos, SvC Match of the Millenium, CvS 1 and 2, Neo Geo Battle Colisseum). That's like a whole nother article right there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2006 10:03:06 GMT -5
I thought about it, but the article is already pretty long. If you include one of the other versus games, then technically you have to do the others (SvC Chaos, SvC Match of the Millenium, CvS 1 and 2, Neo Geo Battle Colisseum). That's like a whole nother article right there. Battle Coliseum? I see... this also includes the SNK vs. SNK game. ;D If that's the case, you'll have to do the Capcom vs. Capcom game, the much abhorred Capcom Fighting Evolution.
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