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Post by ed on Jul 4, 2006 18:16:23 GMT -5
So many dual joystick games in MAME I can't play easily (Total Carnage, QB-3 and Black Widow), along with many others that use more than eight direction joysticks. My only demand is that it doesn't break the bank. Being fast on USB 2.0 would be nice, too. Some I've found: Logitech Dual Action - oh man that is a totally bad name. These are new, though, and not that bad a price (about half what they are in stores). Nyko 80610 AirFlo - cheaper, possibly better overall. Anybody have better recommendations?
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Post by YourAverageJoe on Jul 4, 2006 19:00:21 GMT -5
If you've already got a console 'pad with a Joystick, you could browse Lik-Sang's SmartJoy section. Main advantage is the low price-tag, since you've already got your pad, and support for all sorts of add-ons like steering weels and dance pads for their respected systems.
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Post by ed on Jul 4, 2006 19:31:29 GMT -5
I don't know how good the compatibility is with those, but the main issue here is that I've just got GameCube controllers and original PlayStation ones. I don't want any part of that.
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Post by joesteele on Jul 4, 2006 19:39:50 GMT -5
If you've already got a console 'pad with a Joystick, you could browse Lik-Sang's SmartJoy section. Main advantage is the low price-tag, since you've already got your pad, and support for all sorts of add-ons like steering weels and dance pads for their respected systems. I was gonna say, I use Lik Sang ones for Stepmania, and they are awesome, but I don't think I've seen them made anymore. I'm not sure about GC -> PC gamepad adapters..would be a neat find though, I'm sure someone (if not Lik Sang) makes them.
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Post by Weasel on Jul 4, 2006 20:52:15 GMT -5
Lik Sang does indeed make GameCube USB adapters - in addition to pretty much any other console in existence. I happen to own their PSX-PC adapter, and the support is actually pretty good (all buttons, both axes, force-feedback, even the stick-clicking is supported).
However, I think this deserves to be noted: I had problems installing their drivers when I was running Windows 98SE. Upgrading to XP fixed things.
Personally, I'd stay the hell away from dedicated PC gamepads - more often than not, they're utter rubbish. While there are some that are apparently pretty good (like Microsoft's early Sidewinders, and I hear the XBox 360 for Windows controllers are good too), the overwhelming majority just aren't that reliable for anything. I cite my experience with a Logitech Wingman Rumblepad USB back in 2002 - the buttons were extremely stiff, the digital pad had problems doing anything but diagonals (making fighting games an utter nightmare), the sticks were too loose, and at some point part of the inner circuitry actually got stuck under the digital pad, preventing my from pressing down on it. Eventually the throttle slider popped out as well.
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Post by ed on Jul 4, 2006 21:12:43 GMT -5
hmm, I see the XBox 360 controllers work fine on a PC, but I don't like the joystick placement that much...also, they're pretty expensive.
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Post by Discoalucard on Jul 4, 2006 22:48:49 GMT -5
I have one of those PS2->USB converters and just use a Dual Shock. It works brilliantly for my purposes, but I checked with Smash TV and...it doesn't work right. It only reads the right analog stick as "Z Rotation+" or "Z Rotation-" so I can choose to shoot in two directions but not four.
Still, it was a good deal for $10 at Radio Shack.
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Post by ed on Jul 4, 2006 22:50:46 GMT -5
That'd be a waste from my standpoint, though, 'cuz that sort of control is a major thing.
I also realized that it'd be great in general - I'm playing Out Zone, and it looks like I'm going crazy as I'm constantly tapping left and up or right and up to get those diagonals to work.
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Post by ed on Jul 5, 2006 16:52:13 GMT -5
update: went down to best buy today and checked out their well worn 360 pads (there's white stuff all over the edges of the sticks inside where customers have been banging them against the shell). They still work and look great, though. I think I should get one, as not only is it basically guaranteed to haul ass, but it'll also work on a 360 so it's a small investment into that front for whenever I have a 360.
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Post by munchy on Jul 5, 2006 18:03:36 GMT -5
I've actually got the Logitech Dual Action, which is an okay pad. I find it pretty easy to do weird maneuvers like Dragon Punches and Spinning Piledrivers and whatnot. I can't, however, vouch for the analog sticks, as I don't use them very often.
Before, I was using an X-Arcade stick, but hooking it up with the keyboard causes the emulators to fuck up and for goddamn Stickykeys to appear. I only use the thing with my Xbox now.
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to get rid of stickykeys?
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Post by ed on Jul 5, 2006 20:05:37 GMT -5
Yes. Start -> Settings -> Control Panel, Accessibility Options. Disable that shit post haste
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Post by Shadax on Jul 5, 2006 20:05:51 GMT -5
The X-box Airflo controller came with my x-box, but it looks like the PC pad is based on the PS2 one, which has a d-pad that is absolute dicks.
I have a 15 dollar no-brand gamepad from Wal-Mart, and the dualsticks work fine (one works as the up and down, and the other works as the POV hatswitch). my only problem is again, the d-pad is utter dicks.
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Post by ed on Jul 6, 2006 22:02:31 GMT -5
Hmm, I got this: Mad Catz, oh noes!Great price, and TeamXbawks gave it a good rating. Why not? It's only setting me back about half what a 'real' 360 controller would.
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Post by grad on Jul 7, 2006 3:12:02 GMT -5
I have one of those PS2->USB converters and just use a Dual Shock. It works brilliantly for my purposes, but I checked with Smash TV and...it doesn't work right. It only reads the right analog stick as "Z Rotation+" or "Z Rotation-" so I can choose to shoot in two directions but not four. Still, it was a good deal for $10 at Radio Shack. If by PS2 you mean PS/2, I have that same adapter. I'd wager you knew what you meant, but I just wanted to mention that Radio Shack's PS/2 adapter is also quite flawed. Diagnosing the problem in retrospect, I'd say there's something in the firmware that assumes a certain key repeat delay; I'd like to fiddle with that. As it was, however, I'd press a key on the pad (more on this in a second), and it'd register. Then, shortly afterwards another initial press would register, then it would enter repeat mode. I got the thing so I could use my spiffy-ass, keyboard-substitute-with-pass-through InterAct PowerRamp Mite on my sans PS/2 laptop. Sadly, the adapter failed. However, I most certainly recommend the PowerRamp as a 2D controller for anyone who appreciates good design philosophy. [BONUS: Find the name of an indie rock group in the above post.]
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Post by YourAverageJoe on Jul 9, 2006 14:30:37 GMT -5
I thought PS/2 meant the two ports for a keyboard and a mouse, respectively.
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