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Post by Shellshock on Oct 28, 2007 7:51:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind having all the links in a archive page, but at least put the archive link on the top. Or a menu on the top | Articles | Forums | Cranky Gamers | Links | etc. etc. That link hidden away on the bottom amongst all those images and text makes it seem like unimportant. If you want I can do it for you, just a few examples and you'll pick the one you want. But you have to give me until friday which is when I'm free from my awful job. I agree with Rey. An HTML menu is simple, easy to design, and light on bandwidth. Specially if you don´t want a total graphic makeover or just can´t find someone to do it for free. The present layout is a little confusing for newcomers and it´s dated graphic design is a huge detriment to the excellent content. Is there anybody that could do a makeover to the site like they did with the Castlevania Dungeon, Kurt? If it´s payed work, I´m willing to contribute money thru Paypal for it. If we all contributed a little it would make a big difference! |
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Post by Discoalucard on Oct 28, 2007 10:00:19 GMT -5
The problem with Rey's idea is that there's only one real section of the site - the Articles. Everything else is pretty extraneous.
As mentioned before, I've been thinking of moving all of the articles back onto the main page again, but I need to sort them better. I'm thinking either by company or by genre.
I actually created a new index to show what I'm talking about, but Gamespy's servers haven't let me upload anything for the past few days. The problem is that the content is so haphazard that it's hard to classify a lot of it. I did it by company, and while there's more of a breakdown, there's still a huge list of stuff in the "other" category. Same goes with genre - I could easily break down the shooters and fighting games and stuff, but where do you stick Crazy Taxi? Or Senko no Ronde? Or the dozens of other non-classifiable games that'd get stuck in the other section? This would be better than it is now, but still kinda haphazard.
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Post by ReyVGM on Oct 31, 2007 21:58:55 GMT -5
Sorry for not making the menu earlier. It's just that were was a "surprise" storm in my country and I was without power and water for like a week. I'm now finally back in the globalized world  I think the new menu looks good enough. Of course, after a while it will get really long and the only solution will be to have the menu on a separate page or a drop down menu. |
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Post by Discoalucard on Oct 31, 2007 22:43:03 GMT -5
You're right. But removing the text and spacing cuts the length down by roughly two thirds. And since it's taken 3 and a half years to get this much content, I don't think we need to worry about it until roughly 2014.  I tried sorting them in some kind of meaningful order, and just gave up. You could do it by genre, and have shooters and RPGs and fighting games, but there's a whole ton - a significant chunk - that just doesn't fit in any one definable genre. Where do you stick After Burner? Or Jet Grind Radio? Or Cooking Fighter Hao? Publisher didn't work either - I'd get maybe a third under Sega, Falcom, Konami, and the rest sort of floating out under "other". The content is just way too varied to fit under any real classification, at least that I can think of. |
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Post by ReyVGM on Nov 1, 2007 0:40:23 GMT -5
Yeah I understand. I guess that in the future, when you put the menu on a separate page or drop down menu, you should put every single series name on the menu. For example: Instead of putting Ghosts n Goblins, you should put GnG, Gargoyle's Quest, Maximo, etc. Let's say someone is looking for a Demon's Crest article, if he doesn't know better he could think there is none because he didn't went into the GnG article. Or someone looking for Space Megaforce or even Aleste wouldn't find it unless they knew Aleste was made by Compile or that Space Megaforce IS Aleste. Of course, all the games would link to the same article, but at least it would be easier to find for people that don't know much about obscure series with different names per game. Oh btw, on the main page menu the GnG link doesn't have a >BR< on the html |
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Post by Weasel on Nov 1, 2007 1:00:00 GMT -5
The Logo Gallery desperately needs updating, because the site has gone back to Kunio break-dancing, and there is currently no sign of the Wolfenstein/Flashback logo or my Phoenix Wright courtroom logo.
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Post by Gilder on Nov 1, 2007 2:16:55 GMT -5
I like the new look, just two things: 1.) Urban Yeti doesn't have a link. It's just white text. 2.) This has always bothered me, but Wonder Boy is stuck between X and Y. |
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Post by Shellshock on Nov 1, 2007 10:05:00 GMT -5
To the HG101 staff:
I would like to take advantage of this opportunity to say "great job!!" to Kurt and the staff of this site. I visit on and off and I´m not the kind of person that implements positive reinforcement often, but more of the perfectionist kind, always comunicating typos, faults, and errors.
But not this time. You guys have come up with a better layout, more frequent updates, excellent team work in some of the largest articles, and an overall great community based on awesome content and integrity. So to all of you thanks. Thank you for reminding me of those great titles I had forgotten and showing me the ones I missed, which in turn means HG101 works as it was meant to be.
Thanks!
Brian J. Gazza
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Jan 31, 2009 11:21:29 GMT -5
HG101 is serious fucking business, apparently. A friend recently pointed out to me that my name was mentioned in Wikipedia articles for the games in Quintet's Soul Blazer series. I checked this out for myself, and sure enough, there I was. So I decided to dig deeper into this and find out just how deeply HG101 has infected the internet with its hardcore, manly brand of game coverage. Breath of Fire - WikipediaMy BoF articles are cited many times in the individual game articles. Also cited is an article by Kurt from Gamasutra. Soul Blazer - WikipediaOnce again, my articles are cited throughout the "series". Shockman - WikipediaHell, forget citing. This whole page is practically a C&P of my Schbibinman article. Gundam Battle Assault - WikipediaMuch of the info here is taken from my and other peoples' work on the 2D Gundam Fighter article. Ico - WikipediaMy article is referenced several times. Cho Aniki - WikipediaThe Cho Aniki article is referenced here. Renegade - WikipediaKurt's Kunio-kun article is cited here. Anyone know of anything else major? |
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Post by Shellshock on Jan 31, 2009 12:30:20 GMT -5
This is all fine and dandy, but wikipedia doesn't check the author's credentials when it needs info about a subject hard to come by online. Just because they need that info.
A couple of my articles are also referenced in there. Most notably, I'm quoted to state a couple of facts about Ben Cheese (the British creator of the Super FX chip) in one of them when in reality I'm actually explicitly quoting my source. They just quote me as the one that said it, instead of going down my links and finding the source.
Not to mention the fact that they have no idea who I am, or take the time to cross-reference what I say with my sources (which by the way are all listed at the end of my articles). As long as the writing looks coherent, they will quote you for whatever you want.
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Post by Smithee on Jan 31, 2009 13:32:42 GMT -5
If you search Sotenga you get stuff by him!
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Post by MRSKELETON on Jan 31, 2009 18:04:55 GMT -5
I've been going through and trying to put links to HG101 articles on pages for really obscure games with small articles, like popful mail.
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Post by Ace Whatever on Feb 1, 2009 1:25:41 GMT -5
Nice. I think I vaguely recall one article quoting Kurt's description of a game but I can't remember which. However... This is wrong. The wiki article was written and maintained entirely by me (evidenced by the covering of Battle Assault 3 but not the Seed Destiny game, because I'm a lazy shit) about a good few months before ZZZ's initial article on the Gundam Wing game. Said article also happens to link to the wiki article. |
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Post by zellsf on Feb 1, 2009 8:01:22 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Mission_2About Front Mission 2 Ultimate Hits changes. Also interesting, that if true maybe should be added to the article here: Anyone can confirm this isn't on the Ultimate Hits version, and anyone can confirm if it is on the History compilation version?
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Post by Ganelon on Feb 1, 2009 9:44:00 GMT -5
I think this is part of the inevitable process of recognizing websites as authoritative links, same with books. Anyone can write a trashy and clueless book; anyone can create a trashy and clueless website with just a little less effort. But video gaming has thrived off the internet, with many breaking news announcements and other info being initiated here.
For instance, since we've mentioned the game, take the case how Gundam Battle Assault 2's roster was first obtained. Now, the magazines already announced and had 3 screenshots for the game before anybody on the net knew about it but there were no details. Also at that time, I was really big into Gundam games on the GameFAQs message boards; I had actually joined there primarily because I wanted to write about the original Gundam Battle Assault so I was there to make the 2nd post when the GBA2 board was created and later the 1st post when the Gundam general board was created. That's a little sad but I was hooked and GameFAQs was the only place where people discussed Gundam games (as opposed to the anime, manga, or toys).
Now, somebody had earlier leaked onto GameFAQs a Bandaigames.com press login for another title and I kept that info, looking day in and day out through the more detailed press site listing for hopefully some more info on GBA2. Finally, one day, my perseverance pays off and I find that Bandai had added a new mini-site for GBA2 that was invisible on the public site. In it was a shot of the character select screen and I saw all the MS available on there. I posted the link, login, and mobile suit list that I saw onto GameFAQs and there was my first major news breakthrough. And then later, I clearly remember that just as the board was dying down, Master ZED stepped in and graciously released his GameShark codes to select the 4 hidden suits in the game; yet more history straight from the internet and nowhere else. So my point is, the internet has totally changed things and is perhaps the most definitive source on games that you can get.
Having Hardcore Gaming 101 recognized as an authoritative source on gaming only makes sense considering it's peer-edited and is maintained by a very active administrator. The format is top-notch; summaries for the games can be usually found in a less straightforward manner elsewhere but nowhere is there more explicit detail on the version differences. The multitude of pictures are exceptional and the pictures comparing different versions are simply incredible; lots of kudos to Kurt for coming up with such a solid review structure.
The only thing I don't like is that after some HG101 articles are released, game prices for lesser known titles tend to spike due to the increase in demand from previously ignorant gamers. Segagaga used to be your typical $15-30 game and then suddenly some fools came in and were willing to pay $60 for the game before it mellowed down again (but still not to original levels, likely because any new gamer can now check HG101 to see what a game is about). Of course, that doesn't explain why MSX game prices have been inflated like crazy in recent years...
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