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Post by zellsf on Jul 31, 2014 7:48:01 GMT -5
Remember back in the 2000s when all music was becoming digital and everybody was flipping shit and now the music scene is more diverse and accessible than it has ever been? Difference is in DRM, music publishers gave up on it and there's no signs that video game publishers are going to follow. I would welcome an all digital future if it wasn't for DRM. I don't welcome one where pirates are essential to me being able to replay my favorite games in the future.
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Post by Ike on Jul 31, 2014 11:10:16 GMT -5
How many people have actually encountered DRM as a problem? Like when has DRM been directly responsible for someone not being able to play a game?
edit: as opposed to being a POTENTIAL problem
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Post by Snarboo on Jul 31, 2014 11:26:59 GMT -5
PC games that used Starforce DRM cannot be played on modern computers because they don't recognize anything past Windows XP. However, this is based on what others have told me.
There's been other cases where DRM prevented people from playing a game, but this was more an issue in the DOS days with things like dongles and code wheels.
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Post by Weasel on Jul 31, 2014 11:44:21 GMT -5
How many people have actually encountered DRM as a problem? Like when has DRM been directly responsible for someone not being able to play a game? edit: as opposed to being a POTENTIAL problem My copies of TrackMania and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory are completely unplayable due to StarForce's invasive "security drivers" not installing on 64-bit Windows. uPlay has, on at least one occasion, locked me out from playing Splinter Cell Conviction, due to their getting DDoS'd over Watch Dogs. My Direct2Drive copy of SWAT 4 is more or less unplayable because, despite being able to download the installer from Gamefly, the game demands that it be "authenticated" with Direct2Drive before it will launch, and of course those servers no longer exist.
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Post by Super Orbus on Jul 31, 2014 12:06:16 GMT -5
Plus there's lots of schemes where you can't play without an active net connection. Even for single player.
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Post by zellsf on Jul 31, 2014 13:00:58 GMT -5
How many people have actually encountered DRM as a problem? Like when has DRM been directly responsible for someone not being able to play a game? edit: as opposed to being a POTENTIAL problem Me. And the potential problems shouldn't be discarded. No major digital distribution service has shut down yet, but it will happen.
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Post by Feynman on Jul 31, 2014 13:21:33 GMT -5
How many people have actually encountered DRM as a problem? Like when has DRM been directly responsible for someone not being able to play a game? edit: as opposed to being a POTENTIAL problem I own a few PC games that no longer work correctly because of the DRM attached to them.
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Post by Weasel on Jul 31, 2014 13:49:18 GMT -5
No major digital distribution service has shut down yet, but it will happen. I dunno, I would count Direct2Drive as a service that has "shut down," since all but a few small titles on the service seem to need the online authentication to even start, which no longer works after Gamefly acquired the assets.
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Post by Jave on Aug 1, 2014 19:28:47 GMT -5
Music scène diverse and accessible, nowadays? Yes? It's easier now than ever to get your shit out there without the help of a publishing house or an agent. I can buy music from Amazon or Bandcamp or straight from the band's website if I so choose and burn it onto a CD to play in my car. Moreover it's way way easier for me as a consumer to get the style of music I want, especially if you have esoteric tastes like I do. How many of those artists have the faintest shred of a hope of supporting themselves with their music?
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Post by Ike on Aug 1, 2014 19:32:31 GMT -5
Yes? It's easier now than ever to get your shit out there without the help of a publishing house or an agent. I can buy music from Amazon or Bandcamp or straight from the band's website if I so choose and burn it onto a CD to play in my car. Moreover it's way way easier for me as a consumer to get the style of music I want, especially if you have esoteric tastes like I do. How many of those artists have the faintest shred of a hope of supporting themselves with their music? Virtually none of them, same as every other decade of human existence?
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Post by Pixel_Crusher on Aug 1, 2014 20:23:03 GMT -5
Speaking of PC gaming DRM, should I bother to replace every single of my console games for a PC counterpart? I'm planning on getting a more powerful rig soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 21:16:30 GMT -5
Speaking of PC gaming DRM, should I bother to replace every single of my console games for a PC counterpart? I'm planning on getting a more powerful rig soon. How much do you enjoy wasting your money by purchasing the same stuff multiple times? That isn't to say I'm judging, I've actually just begun doing this very same thing myself. It's not something I'd really recommend for most people, though. Save your money for new stuff you never owned before.
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Post by moran on Aug 1, 2014 21:22:24 GMT -5
How many of those artists have the faintest shred of a hope of supporting themselves with their music? Virtually none of them, same as every other decade of human existence? Yeah, the only people making money off of selling records is the record company.
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Post by Super Orbus on Aug 1, 2014 22:40:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't say "virtually none" - there are loads of professional musicians out there. Only a very small portion of them are living the rockstar high life, but a reasonable number must be able to make enough to live on.
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Post by jorpho on Aug 1, 2014 23:53:06 GMT -5
My Direct2Drive copy of SWAT 4 is more or less unplayable because, despite being able to download the installer from Gamefly, the game demands that it be "authenticated" with Direct2Drive before it will launch, and of course those servers no longer exist. Yikes! Did their tech support say anything? It doesn't make a lick of sense that they'd keep a useless installer up for download.
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