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Post by ZenithianHero on Nov 27, 2015 10:13:39 GMT -5
Pretty sure the first Ar Tonelico made you stupidly powerful in battle and made the game less fun in gameplay. Been a while since I played it. Anything Gust is popular, I can see why people love them. They used to make some nice sprites and the overall presentation of the games were charming. I liked Mana Khemia 1 the most of that era.
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Post by fieryreign on Nov 27, 2015 12:07:56 GMT -5
Popular amongst jrpg fans doesn't make the game popular. That's a niche genre and fanbase. Never heard of it myself.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 27, 2015 13:33:25 GMT -5
Popular amongst jrpg fans doesn't make the game popular. That's a niche genre and fanbase. Never heard of it myself. JRPGs were not always completely niche however, you used to have even dudebros getting excited for the latest Final Fantasy. That's all over now of course though.
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Post by moran on Nov 27, 2015 13:33:53 GMT -5
What's Ar Tonelico?
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Post by Échalote on Nov 27, 2015 13:41:13 GMT -5
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Post by Reiji-kun on Nov 27, 2015 14:35:59 GMT -5
JRPGs were not always completely niche however, you used to have even dudebros getting excited for the latest Final Fantasy. That's all over now of course though. I would think that Persona has managed to take Final Fantasy's place as the RPG the dudebros would get excited for after how well 3 and 4 and some of their spinoffs have done. People have been getting hyped for Persona 5 too, I think (myself included). I wouldn't know all the details, though. I'll rephrase my statement to clear things up: In games like Sigma Star Saga and Ar tonelico's case, I don't see why people think they're good. I guess it's not so much a matter of popularity as it is why people think they're just so awesome. But I goofed and lumped them in as 'popular' anyhow due to a judgement call. Sorry about that if that ruffled any feathers, peeps.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 27, 2015 15:11:06 GMT -5
JRPGs were not always completely niche however, you used to have even dudebros getting excited for the latest Final Fantasy. That's all over now of course though. I would think that Persona has managed to take Final Fantasy's place as the RPG the dudebros would get excited for after how well 3 and 4 and some of their spinoffs have done. People have been getting hyped for Persona 5 too (myself included), I think. I wouldn't know, though. Persona is definitely the most popular JRPG in America at the moment, but I still wouldn't say it's played by dudebros. But there was a period there for Final Fantasy, I would say from VII to X where the series was as mainstream as anything else in gaming at the time.
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Post by Reiji-kun on Nov 27, 2015 15:19:38 GMT -5
I guess that's true. Shin Megami Tensei has become popular outside of its native country... but perhaps it's not exactly that popular, is it?
For that matter, what is a dudebro? Is that a macho/masculinity kind of thing?
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Post by Allie on Nov 27, 2015 15:44:10 GMT -5
I guess that's true. Shin Megami Tensei has become popular outside of its native country... but perhaps it's not exactly that popular, is it? For that matter, what is a dudebro? Is that a macho/masculinity kind of thing? A stereotype for a Natty Light-swilling, nerd-hating jock (or otherwise testosterone-overloaded) type with little in the way of emotional sensitivity or philosophical/scholastic depth. Someone who leans on their perceived masculinity to attempt to compensate for our post-modern society leaving them behind as soon as they hit the age of about 26.
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Post by tbb on Nov 27, 2015 16:09:16 GMT -5
Smash Bros. I just don't get why the game is so popular with that weird rising percentage and knock opponents off the screen to win percentage. I can never get into the game because I'm constantly more worried about falling off the platforms than actually attacking the other characters. A game with all these Nintendo guys together should be like a wet dream, and apparently it is to everyone else, but for me it's just not.
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Post by GamerL on Nov 27, 2015 16:24:31 GMT -5
Smash Bros. I just don't get why the game is so popular with that weird rising percentage and knock opponents off the screen to win percentage. I can never get into the game because I'm constantly more worried about falling off the platforms than actually attacking the other characters. A game with all these Nintendo guys together should be like a wet dream, and apparently it is to everyone else, but for me it's just not. Strange, Super Smash Bros Melee knocked me flat on my ass, that's one of the best games ever made, you really didn't like it at all?
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Post by kaoru on Nov 27, 2015 18:13:59 GMT -5
Pretty sure the first Ar Tonelico made you stupidly powerful in battle and made the game less fun in gameplay. Been a while since I played it. Anything Gust is popular, I can see why people love them. They used to make some nice sprites and the overall presentation of the games were charming. I liked Mana Khemia 1 the most of that era. The second game is the only one woth playing. The first is a bore, and the third is so bad, it could pass as a game made by Compile Heart.
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Post by Kubo Caskett on Nov 28, 2015 19:23:25 GMT -5
One gaming franchise I'll never understand why is so popular is King of Fighters (as well as all fighting games in general but I'll focus my energy on just this one). I mean I don't know what's so captivating about some silly tournament that's conducted by some silly bad guys (and is often used as some silly plot to summon the Orochi monster or some s##t) and that you have to fight with crappy controls and boring gameplay. I know some of you will point out fighting games aren't my thing and you're right they aren't but since this is SNK's most well known franchise, it boggles my mind why SNK chose to focus a lot of energy on this one franchise the when they got Fatal Fury/Garou to make a leading fighting game series out of. I guess maybe it's that you get to play a lot of characters and that you get to fight with 3 of your own choosing to fight but whatever.
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Post by Ryzuki on Nov 28, 2015 19:35:49 GMT -5
The last couple things you mentions would likely be my guess as well. I *love* fighting games; for years all I played was fight games...But I don't understand the appeal for KOF either now that you mention it. It's not a bad game at all, and yes it looks good, but gameplay wise, it's nothing special. In fact, I find it to be oddly difficult despite playing like any other 2D fighter, pulling off long combos is the hardest thing for me. (then again, so is SF4)
Though like I said it is the only game I know of that has the 3v3 tournament fight without the option to swap out, each game looks good for it's time, but I don't find anything about it to be amazing. Maybe it's because of it's age? Mortal Kombat sucked for around a decade before MK9 came out, but there were plenty of games between that and the arcade days.
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Post by Weasel on Nov 28, 2015 22:25:33 GMT -5
One gaming franchise I'll never understand why is so popular is King of Fighters (as well as all fighting games in general but I'll focus my energy on just this one). I mean I don't know what's so captivating about some silly tournament that's conducted by some silly bad guys (and is often used as some silly plot to summon the Orochi monster or some s##t) and that you have to fight with crappy controls and boring gameplay. I know some of you will point out fighting games aren't my thing and you're right they aren't but since this is SNK's most well known franchise, it boggles my mind why SNK chose to focus a lot of energy on this one franchise the when they got Fatal Fury/Garou to make a leading fighting game series out of. I guess maybe it's that you get to play a lot of characters and that you get to fight with 3 of your own choosing to fight but whatever. I feel the other way around, honestly; they put an awful lot of attention into the KoF series to where not a single character in 30+ per game feels like a clone of another one (except where it's obviously intended to be that way), and haven't ever really had a problem with the controls. Though I will say that, yes, the story is ALWAYS stupid, but if you're playing a fighting game and expecting a great story out of it, you are in the wrong genre, my friend.
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