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Post by Resident Tsundere on Nov 13, 2015 7:58:06 GMT -5
I actually dislike the original Castlevania. I just hate stiff jumping in games. It's so brutal.
Strangely enough, though, I really dig what I've played of Simon's Quest. I think it has neat music and it's fun to compare it to the Metroidvanias.
The game is muuuch better if you're playing with a FAQ. Some games are like that, and there should be no shame in doing so. *drops mic*
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Post by moran on Nov 13, 2015 8:03:36 GMT -5
Sonic is another one. The originals at least. The levels are needlessly huge and I find myself just holding right until I hit the end. Isn't that more of a recent Sonic thing? The classic Sonic titles have so much better level design than recent ones. Certainly no hold-right-to-win affair. I can't speak for anything passed Sonic and Knuckles because I've only played a demo or two. But that's all those games amounted to me. And as for any level in the Genesis games that force you to take it slow made the game even worse in my opinion.
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Post by elektrolurch on Nov 13, 2015 8:14:47 GMT -5
I LOVE Green Hill Zone in Sonic 1, but after that the game kinda annoys me. Sonic 2,3 and Sonic &Knuckles are superior IMHO.
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Post by lurker on Nov 13, 2015 8:15:44 GMT -5
I mainly like Pokemon for the party building, though bringing them into 3d helped me get interested in some that I wouldn't have put in my party otherwise. I'm not sure I'd recommend replaying Blue/Red, considering all the glitches and balance issues they have. I enjoyed Diablo 2, though it may be because I like my dungeon crawlers a bit actiony.
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Post by Exhuminator on Nov 13, 2015 9:29:57 GMT -5
Pokemon: I don't get it nowadays, but first generation was bananas. Yeah, it's Dragon Quest Lite, yeah it's a mild JRPG... but who was playing RPGs back then? Again, pre-FF7 in the west. Yes, RPGs were huge on SNES, but Pokemon made them mainstream. It was a nice mix of casual and core, and honestly just a fun game. I'd still recommend any gamer to play through Red/Blue. You ask who was playing RPGs back in 1998 when Red/Blue released? Well I was for one. I mean that year alone saw the release of Panzer Dragoon Saga, Baldur's Gate, Xenogears, Fallout 2, Parasite Eve, Mega Man Legends, Breath of Fire III... and many more. RPGs had definitely become popular by 1998. Also, in the west, Final Fantasy VII was released a full year before Pokemon. I'm not sure why you thought otherwise. What I don't get about Pokemon isn't its gameplay. I understand its simple gameplay. What I don't understand is how people keep buying the exact same game over and over.
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Post by shelverton on Nov 13, 2015 9:40:26 GMT -5
I absolutely second Mass Effect. Though I should probably play it more. But that's the thing: How much time do I need to invest before I start to like it? Maybe I kinda understand the popularity but not how people could keep playing enough for it to become good. I guess they found it good pretty fast?
Smash Bros is another game which I don't get. I'm guessing it's because I rarely play with other people, so I'm left with the single player experience which always felt caotic and random. Then again maybe I need to "practice" or something. I like the idea of smash bros but not the actual thing.
Oh, and I wanna say Splatoon based on....absolutely nothing. I haven't played it but I cannot remember a Nintendo game that I've been so genuinely uninterested in. But yeah, Splatoon doesn't really count here.
Finally, I wanna add every RTS ever released. I. Do. Not. Get. It.
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Post by lurker on Nov 13, 2015 9:44:31 GMT -5
Pokemon: I don't get it nowadays, but first generation was bananas. Yeah, it's Dragon Quest Lite, yeah it's a mild JRPG... but who was playing RPGs back then? Again, pre-FF7 in the west. Yes, RPGs were huge on SNES, but Pokemon made them mainstream. It was a nice mix of casual and core, and honestly just a fun game. I'd still recommend any gamer to play through Red/Blue. You ask who was playing RPGs back in 1998 when Red/Blue released? Well I was for one. I mean that year alone saw the release of Panzer Dragoon Saga, Baldur's Gate, Xenogears, Fallout 2, Parasite Eve, Mega Man Legends, Breath of Fire III... and many more. RPGs had definitely become popular by 1998. Also, in the west, Final Fantasy VII was released a full year before Pokemon. I'm not sure why you thought otherwise. What I don't get about Pokemon isn't its gameplay. I understand its simple gameplay. What I don't understand is how people keep buying the exact same game over and over. I think its mainly because of the stuff they add to the games with each installment and the new roster. That and the post Gen 1 balance fixing.
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Post by ZenithianHero on Nov 13, 2015 10:05:09 GMT -5
For the longest time I avoided GTA. Tried a PS2 entry at a friends house and was boring to me. Had to sit next to a huge fan of them in class. The games are the most talked about series when a new one comes out. The gameplay I understand why people get the latest release, but I just don't think open world is that special trend anymore.
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Post by moran on Nov 13, 2015 10:16:05 GMT -5
Pokemon: I don't get it nowadays, but first generation was bananas. Yeah, it's Dragon Quest Lite, yeah it's a mild JRPG... but who was playing RPGs back then? Again, pre-FF7 in the west. Yes, RPGs were huge on SNES, but Pokemon made them mainstream. It was a nice mix of casual and core, and honestly just a fun game. I'd still recommend any gamer to play through Red/Blue. You ask who was playing RPGs back in 1998 when Red/Blue released? Well I was for one. I mean that year alone saw the release of Panzer Dragoon Saga, Baldur's Gate, Xenogears, Fallout 2, Parasite Eve, Mega Man Legends, Breath of Fire III... and many more. RPGs had definitely become popular by 1998. Also, in the west, Final Fantasy VII was released a full year before Pokemon. I'm not sure why you thought otherwise. What I don't get about Pokemon isn't its gameplay. I understand its simple gameplay. What I don't understand is how people keep buying the exact same game over and over. Same here. The main reason I had no interest in it when it was released was because I had so many other RPG choices that I preferred over Pokemon.
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Post by 🧀Son of Suzy Creamcheese🧀 on Nov 13, 2015 10:32:57 GMT -5
ZenithianHeroActually, GTA is another good one. It's kinda fun to dick around in for a while, but that gets boring fast. lurkerThe first gen games are kinda outdated, but the difficulty I think is a good thing about them. They're pretty much the only PKMN games you can't rush through. I can't speak for anything passed Sonic and Knuckles because I've only played a demo or two. But that's all those games amounted to me. And as for any level in the Genesis games that force you to take it slow made the game even worse in my opinion. Really? When's the last time you played some Sonic games. Because there's a fair amount of platforming in them. Especially in CD. There's a lot of moments in STH2 and S3&K where you can fast for a while, but even that's balanced by sections that make you slow down again.
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Post by Dee Liteyears on Nov 13, 2015 10:48:52 GMT -5
Tower Defense games. Tried a few and either they were boring or confusing. I just don't get the appeal. Also Diablo. To me the whole gameplay looks the same as my webbrowser when it freezes. *clickclickclick* *clickclickclick* *ah something happened*
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Post by moran on Nov 13, 2015 11:09:27 GMT -5
I can't speak for anything passed Sonic and Knuckles because I've only played a demo or two. But that's all those games amounted to me. And as for any level in the Genesis games that force you to take it slow made the game even worse in my opinion. Really? When's the last time you played some Sonic games. Because there's a fair amount of platforming in them. Especially in CD. There's a lot of moments in STH2 and S3&K where you can fast for a while, but even that's balanced by sections that make you slow down again. I play them from time to time to see if something may finally click. But I figure after 25 years, it's probably not going to happen. I find the platforming parts incredibly dull in the series. The controls are so sluggish in the slower areas that I can't stand playing them. CD is the only one I remember enjoying, but I haven't played that in close to 20 years and still never played too far into it. The only one I've ever played to completion is the first one about a year ago. And that was only through perseverance rather than actually enjoying it.
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Post by lurker on Nov 13, 2015 11:39:32 GMT -5
ZenithianHeroActually, GTA is another good one. It's kinda fun to dick around in for a while, but that gets boring fast. lurkerThe first gen games are kinda outdated, but the difficulty I think is a good thing about them. They're pretty much the only PKMN games you can't rush through. I can't speak for anything passed Sonic and Knuckles because I've only played a demo or two. But that's all those games amounted to me. And as for any level in the Genesis games that force you to take it slow made the game even worse in my opinion. Really? When's the last time you played some Sonic games. Because there's a fair amount of platforming in them. Especially in CD. There's a lot of moments in STH2 and S3&K where you can fast for a while, but even that's balanced by sections that make you slow down again. True, although it does make it easy for younger fans to hop into. They should probably add a Challenge Tower kind of thing that you can't outlevel for the people looking for a challenge. Even the older titles get easier when you get the last badge because after that, nothing is stopping you from outleveling the Elite 4.
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Post by DPB on Nov 13, 2015 12:00:41 GMT -5
Also Diablo. To me the whole gameplay looks the same as my webbrowser when it freezes. *clickclickclick* *clickclickclick* *ah something happened* The whole point and click hack and slash genre holds no appeal to me, the control scheme is actually painful and RSI-inducing. Plus, the late 90s/early 00s was swamped with Diablo clones, apart from Bioware and Black Isle it seemed like that weren't many RPGs available anymore, just a lot of clickfests.
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Post by kaoru on Nov 13, 2015 13:20:23 GMT -5
I'll never understand how Golden Sun managed to become a thing, unless it's from being the only visible RPG on the GBA at the time, and being the first RPG that kids who only had the handheld ever played.
Also not at all clicking with the first Dragon Age, I prefer the second.
I guess I kinda don't get Assassin's Creed either, even though I have the itch to play one every once in a while myself. But really, II and IV are the only good ones (and II tries its hardest at the end to destroy any goodwill the rest of the game might have built up), dunno why the entire franchise is so popular.
Catherine came up in another thread. I kinda like that one too, but for how batshit stupid it is. The whole "such a mature game tackling adult human relationships" thing that people mention I don't get from the game at all. Catherine is about as deep as a dried up sea.
Earthbound and Chrono Trigger are two games I think are pretty good, but the insane love I don't feel. Maybe too late to the party or too high expectations due to the constant hype? Super Mario RPG, another one on everyone's favorite SNES RPG list, I think is pretty boring even.
Really, there are quite some games that I think are Ok or perfectly fine, but can't relate to the extreme love, Ni no Kuni and Parasite Eve being two other examples. Or the Rune Factorys. Tail Concerto and its sequel-ish Solatorobo, or Okamiden. And of course everyone's RPG messiah Xenoblade.
I'm also thouroughly "meh" on any Zelda game I ever played, besides Link's Awakening, which I hold dear, but that might be more about it being a good childhood memory of mine more than anything.
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