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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 17:08:00 GMT -5
In all fairness, I'm not trying to be a dick. Just trying to point out a small bit of hypocrisy. There's a difference between "I genuinely fear for my life because I'm queer in goddamn Texas" and "people like what I like now and that is bad." Does it need to be brought up multiple times on a video game forum? I would wager not. More to the point, I'm just trying to show you that things that are important to you might not be so important to others, so please show the same level of respect you would want about things you care about. Also, by "important", I mean to say that you're young and have the problem of thinking that your issues are unique to you, and that this makes your pain significant. By no means is it trivial, but it's also not special. You aren't the only person living in a red state who's LGBT; you're not the only person who has similar concerns. Adults just try to not complain about things that they have no control over. It's a sign of immaturity.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 17:11:24 GMT -5
What @jasonx said. MAYBE, just MAYBE, we might be willing to hear out your life story if you'd be willing to do the same for ours.
Alternatively: I can't identify with being bisexual no matter how many times you talk about it, but I *can* identify with obscure games from Russia, so why don't we play to our strengths, yes?
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Post by GamerL on May 11, 2016 18:54:46 GMT -5
Everyone has an identity, it could be your hobbies, it could be your religion, politics, sexuality, job, whatever...
And for some people nerd culture makes up a big part of their identity and I don't see anything wrong with someone being a little skeptical with people who are only into "nerdy" things because it's what's hip and probably wouldn't be otherwise, I mean I've seen a handful of episodes of The Big Bang Theory and it truly is an awful show, I think we can all agree nerd culture didn't need that crap, right?
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Post by nightdreamer on May 11, 2016 19:02:37 GMT -5
...was there a need to start a forum drama in this here thread?
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Post by JDarkside on May 11, 2016 19:08:01 GMT -5
...was there a need to start a forum drama in this here thread? I was playing Punch Club when this mess started, don't look at me. I couldn't save the cat ;__;
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Post by Weasel on May 11, 2016 19:44:42 GMT -5
Quick vote: has this thread become a trainwreck?
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Post by Snarboo on May 11, 2016 20:00:41 GMT -5
It's bordering on one, but it hasn't gone off the rails just yet.
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Post by GamerL on May 11, 2016 20:08:07 GMT -5
Naw, it's ok.
Can we talk more about how awesome modern cosplay is?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 20:13:20 GMT -5
I think it's all good, sorry for the sidetrack.
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Post by Resident Tsundere on May 11, 2016 20:28:34 GMT -5
I love a good cosplay. Heroes of Cosplay is a good blog for cosplay pictures.
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Post by moran on May 11, 2016 20:48:57 GMT -5
My issue with Big Bang Theory is that it's not entirely fictitious. Those people exist, and they are not funny.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 21:09:45 GMT -5
Yeah, it's like white people seeing the sassy black person in any given Hollywood movie and thinking that it's an accurate encapsulation of the black American experience. Parts of it are certainly true to a degree, but it's mostly just a grossly exaggerated stereotype played for the cheapest possible laughs.
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Post by JDarkside on May 11, 2016 21:12:49 GMT -5
My issue with Big Bang Theory is that it's not entirely fictitious. Those people exist, and they are not funny. Yes, but putting them in those clothing choices is purely playing on stereotypes from the 80s. Sheldon is a whole other kettle of fish, since he's, and this is canon, autistic.
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Post by Scylla on May 11, 2016 21:15:38 GMT -5
Oh, there's plenty to love about the mainstreaming of nerd culture, don't get me wrong, it's just that at the same time there is something to be said for the era when you risked getting your ass beat for liking this stuff, I have a lot of respect for the older crowd of nerds who had to put up with that. I have never known a time when this was true, not for me or anyone I personally witnessed. When I think back on people who were bullied for being "nerds", it always seemed to be a product of how they looked, their mannerisms, their personality, and where they stood on the "social ladder". It was never about a specific thing that a person liked. Usually bullies didn't even give a shit to learn about their victims to such an extent. It was never like "Oh, this kid likes video games, let's beat him up". Every kid and their brother had an NES in the 80s, it was completely normal. Bullies had them too. SNES and Genesis were popular, so were N64 and PS1, so on and so forth. It was extremely accepted to have these and like video games. The "worst" I experienced was that, as I got older, into my teens, it was less and less common for the girls to still be passionate about games. Most of the girls who grew up playing Mario and what have you in elementary school lost interest by junior high, when they got into more stereotypical teenage girl interests (fashion, makeup, pop groups, boys, etc.). I was still pretty annoyingly vocal about my love for games in junior high, haha, but I slowly got the impression that some people thought of me as something of a weirdo for being female and so into games. Whether that was my own insecurity or a fact, I couldn't say. Nobody actively said or did anything to me, I just felt like I was being looked at like I had a third eye. So I mostly kept it to myself in high school (but I mostly kept to myself in general then). If I wasn't female, I would've had no problem at all. I'd hear boys of all degrees of popularity talking about games, and no one thought anything of it. It was just a normal thing for teenage boys to be into, like music, movies, sports, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 21:15:54 GMT -5
The fact that there's Big Bang canon is more amusing than the content of the show itself. Oh, there's plenty to love about the mainstreaming of nerd culture, don't get me wrong, it's just that at the same time there is something to be said for the era when you risked getting your ass beat for liking this stuff, I have a lot of respect for the older crowd of nerds who had to put up with that. I have never known a time when this was true, not for me or anyone I personally witnessed. When I think back on people who were bullied for being "nerds", it always seemed to be a product of how they looked, their mannerisms, their personality, and where they stood on the "social ladder". It was never about a specific thing that a person liked. Usually bullies didn't even give a shit to learn about their victims to such an extent. It was never like "Oh, this kid likes video games, let's beat him up". Every kid and their brother had an NES in the 80s, it was completely normal. Bullies had them too. SNES and Genesis were popular, so were N64 and PS1, so on and so forth. It was extremely accepted to have these and like video games. Can't speak for when and where you grew up, but in the 80s/90s in NE Ohio, you absolutely got your ass kicked for liking nerd things, along with being shunned socially.
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