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Post by justjustin on Feb 18, 2007 11:31:46 GMT -5
Hey folks; just a quick question— wonderin' if you can help me out here.
Recently I've been playing a lot of games through emulation on my PC hooked up to my CRT TV. It's great being able to play those games on my TV as opposed to an old computer monitor! However, there's an issue:
The dreaded "tearing" effect. Yes, it's that dang line that slices the poor game in half ever minute or so... and not even the vsync option on the emulators can stop this menace.
Do any of you have any suggestions on how I can get rid of this annoyance? Any information or suggestions would be a great help, and greatly appreciated as well.
Thanks in advance, Justin
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Post by Discoalucard on Feb 18, 2007 12:01:39 GMT -5
Find the option that says "VSYNC" (or vertical sync) and turn it on.
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Post by Isao Kronos (BANNED) on Feb 18, 2007 12:07:40 GMT -5
I need to get off my arse and find a way to do the opposite- play console games on my monitor.
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Post by justjustin on Feb 18, 2007 12:37:32 GMT -5
Heh heh. Disco, I already have the vsync options turned on ;D— it improves the game but tearing is still quite constant. I figure there's some discrepancy between my TV refresh rate and the video card/monitor drivers on my PC...
Thanks though, I'll keep pickin' at options.
Oh and Isao Kronos, I also tried to find a way to hook my consoles up to my computer monitor once— the only options I could find were these super-expensive VGA boxes. It's either that or a TV Tuner card, in which case the picture is grainy and blurry, with funky colors... keep lookin' though, there may be an affordable option out there somewhere.
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Post by YourAverageJoe on Feb 18, 2007 12:58:30 GMT -5
Try messing about with it, here's the obvious specs you'd need for an old-fashioned NTSC TV:
640x480 60 Hz (50 Hz if japanese NTSC)
If you're looking at PAL, use this instead:
720x576 or 702x576 50 Hz
Also look out for progressive scan, which has been a default in computer monitors for ages, but has only been around in TVs for about 3 years, as far as I know, anyway...
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Post by Shinigami on Feb 18, 2007 13:54:32 GMT -5
You can buy a monitor with component, S-video, and composite inputs. This way you can easily plug in your consoles.
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Post by Isao Kronos (BANNED) on Feb 18, 2007 14:03:15 GMT -5
I have a good LCD monitor, I don't need another monitor.
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Post by justjustin on Feb 18, 2007 14:19:06 GMT -5
Well, I tried changing the refresh rate to 60, and now everything's just jittery and tears even more. I'll keep goofin' around with settings. Thanks though.
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Post by savagepencil on Feb 18, 2007 14:27:11 GMT -5
Don't some consoles run at something weird, like 59.97 hz or something? If you can manually set it, that may be it.
Can you set up double (or triple) buffering in your PC software? It sounds like the renderer is writing to the "current" surface instead of to a back buffer and flipping during VSYNC.
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Post by justjustin on Feb 18, 2007 16:09:38 GMT -5
Ah, I'll check that out— However, now that I think about it... I've come upon an error message saying Direct Draw could not write/draw on a surface; then the program shuts down. I'm afraid something's wrong with Direct Draw. My computer's quite old (1999 Dell with Pentium III processor, 128mb ram) so I don't know if it'll be able to set double or triple buffering... I have an Nvidia TNT2 graphics card I believe— if that helps....
Thanks, everyone.
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Post by justjustin on Feb 18, 2007 17:24:30 GMT -5
Ok, here are my settings: Display: Generic Television on NVIDIA TNT2 M64 4xAGP Colors: High Color (16 bit) Resolution: 640 x 480 DirectDraw 1.00 Refresh Rate: Adapter Default (my only other choice is Optimal) These give the best results— I only notice tearing every two minutes or so. My guess is it's DirectDraw being a problem. Is there a newer version? If so how can I install it? I have no idea how this stuff works. Thanks again, Justin
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Feb 18, 2007 17:54:04 GMT -5
Let me ask you is it a book fold effect?
I have the exact same problem
all I know is that it has something to do with Open GL
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Post by justjustin on Feb 18, 2007 18:34:24 GMT -5
It looks like that. The tearing line starts at the top and moves downward.
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Post by savagepencil on Feb 18, 2007 21:12:07 GMT -5
You don't have a better TV than that? Or are you using this for screencaps? I'd say that rig probably isn't doing double buffering.
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Post by justjustin on Feb 18, 2007 23:06:01 GMT -5
That's the best TV I got... just a 20 inch Sylvania CRT. and yeah, that computer's a tad old.
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