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Post by justjustin on Mar 29, 2007 13:16:33 GMT -5
Hey, I just stumbled upon this game/app for the DS (even though... it was kinda released a year ago). As you can probably tell from the name, it's an english-japanese, japanese-english and kana-kanji dictionary-- that, of course, allows you to write everything! And at only 50 bucks (as opposed to 300 or so for ), it seems like a good deal for anyone dedicated to learning Japanese. So, has anyone else tried this, or do you own it? Is it helpful, worth the price, etc.? I'm considering picking it up-- I've taken a semester and a half of Japanese already, and plan to continue, of course... the full two years, then hopefully study at Tsukuba University for a year. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji_Sonomama_Rakubiki_Jiten
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Mar 29, 2007 14:18:21 GMT -5
*points and laughs*
weeabo
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Post by Discoalucard on Mar 29, 2007 15:28:57 GMT -5
Yeah, what a loser. Who wants to learn Japanese anyway?
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Please post more constructively in the future. And if you're going to attempt to insult someone with one of the most retarded non-words constructed by the wisdom of the internet, at least spell it right.
On topic - looks neat. I remember reading about that one of these, either this or a similar product, had really bad recognition, rendering it useless. Might want to Google for other feedback though.
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Post by savagepencil on Mar 29, 2007 15:37:17 GMT -5
So it's primarily a dictionary, instead of a babelfish, right? I wonder how those things handle idioms and the vagueness of Japanese.
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Post by Malroth on Mar 29, 2007 15:41:13 GMT -5
Hm, that does seem neat. It'd be even better if it could handle translations that actually make sense, though creating something like that would be really difficult.
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Post by justjustin on Mar 29, 2007 16:01:12 GMT -5
Tch, you're right guys, what was I thinking?!-- learning Japanese is just a waste, and it won't benefit my future plans whatsoever.
But seriously.
Hm... Yeah, I read that for this one in particular you must draw the strokes of the kanji in the correct order. Which, actually, is a good thing because drawing them in the correct order helps when memorizing the kanji. And even if you don't draw it flawlessly, it gives you a few (say 10 or so) to choose from according to what you scribbled out.
And... I dunno if this makes a difference or not, but this one was published by Nintendo and is part of their Touch! Generations lineup. More credible? Who knows...
And michi, I'm sure you didn't mean that in the pejorative sense... or you better not have... *shakes fist menacingly* even though, you know, weaboo's kinda negative to begin with.
Anyway, I'll keep checking this out.
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Mar 29, 2007 16:03:09 GMT -5
there are like...........30 of these things.
there's also one if you want to learn korean.
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Post by justjustin on Mar 29, 2007 16:12:23 GMT -5
Much like any dictionary, this would not be helpful in figuring out the ambiguities of a language. This would just serve as a resource and is definitely not a translator. You couldn't just pick this up and be like, "ha ha suckerz, I know Japanese!" The point of this app, really, is just that it's easier to draw kanji on the DS touchscreen than look it up in a fat kanji dictionary (which is a hassle if you don't know how to pronounce it).
It looks like a useful tool though, so I think I'll pick it up.
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Post by michiyoyoshiku on Mar 29, 2007 16:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by justjustin on Mar 29, 2007 17:37:33 GMT -5
I'm just gonna cross my fingers and hope the one I just bought (Kanji Sonomama DS Rakubiki Jiten) will be the most useful out of all of those.
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Post by gesutaaru on Mar 30, 2007 10:04:30 GMT -5
As a fellow weeaboo, I own this. It was recommended to me by a friend. It's pretty awesome, actually. I used it to replace a $200 electronic dictionary, my friend used it to replace his $350 one. The only downside to it is that, from what I understand, it's got one of the weaker JtoE dictionaries. However, it was the same dictionary that was in the $350 dictionary, so it can't be that bad.
It's not something I use every single day, but when I do need it, it's really handy and easy to use. Also, if I can't get an English definition for whatever compound or kanji I'm looking up, I can always take the reading to Jlookup, which, despite requiring a local PC, is still a million times easier than counting strokes or radicals or some other nonsense.
EDIT: Also worth noting is the fact that only one of the items Michiyoyoshiku linked to is actually a dictionary. The only item that was a dictionary is the one in question by the op; the others range from math training to test prep(on kanji, but still, they aren't dictionaries).
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Post by justjustin on Mar 30, 2007 13:21:03 GMT -5
gesutaaru; thanks for the input! I feel much better about my decision now that I've heard good news from someone who actually owns it. Nice to know I'll be saving a few hundred bucks this way.
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Post by ReyVGM on Mar 30, 2007 15:12:26 GMT -5
What is weeaboo?
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Post by ahnslaught on Mar 30, 2007 15:20:10 GMT -5
No clue, but it's probably something that describes all of us, to a certain extent. Just get over it - we're all nerds here; haven't we gotten over the making fun of people thing already?
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