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Post by [UNPERSON] on Apr 13, 2006 14:15:34 GMT -5
Which surprises me why gay activists were harassing EGM for making fun the game, considering Choaniki makes fun of gay people to great lengths. I think it was how the preview paragraph was written, with such words as "queer creeps."
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Post by Malroth on Apr 13, 2006 15:07:13 GMT -5
Sheesh, that is a rather scathing article. It's no wonder a lot of people were offended by it.
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Post by wil327 on Apr 17, 2006 13:55:28 GMT -5
Well, I watched Kurt play Choaniki on the PCEngine this weekend, and I have to agree that the first one isn't gaytastic.
However, the rest of them are pretty damn gay.
The music ranges from creepy man to awesome.
As far as it being a good shmup, I personally, feel that it is nothing more than an average shmup with a quirk that makes people take interest.
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Post by Scylla on Apr 20, 2006 17:55:18 GMT -5
I wanted to dispell the myth that it's a "gay" game because it impliess that it's all porn and what have you. It's not. It's all played for laughs. It's just really fucked up about it sometimes. That's actually one of my favorite parts of the article (besides how informative and useful it is on my quest to add more Cho Aniki games to my collection). So often the games are called gay, homosexual, pornographic, yaoi, homoerotic, etc., but I'll argue to the end of time that it's NONE of those things, at least not in the way that most people are using those words. It's very hard for people who have never played any of the games to understand (mostly because they rely on biased, overexaggerated reviews and articles to inform them about the games which are written by people who have played one of the games maybe 5 minutes tops via an emulator before passing their judgments), but anyone who wants to truly understand Cho Aniki needs to differentiate all the terms above from what Cho Aniki REALLY is - a humor-based series that uses gay innuendos as the fodder for their comedy. In other words, they're just really goofy, weird games designed to make you laugh, or as Kurt says, they're really fucked up games. :) As a straight woman, I can say that I definitely DON'T find anything about the games erotic or sexually attractive. I've only come across one gay guy that bought a Cho Aniki game because of the gay themes, and to the best of my knowledge, he didn't find anything about it attractive either. Considering the vast majority of the audience that plays the games are straight guys, it totally debunks the statements some make claiming that the games are targeted at a gay audience. Oh, and there's no shame in liking the music in the Cho Aniki games. It's by the fantastic Koji Hayama, arguably the most successful video game composer in Japan. Unlike all the others, including Uematsu, Hayama transcended the niche VGM audience to appeal to mainstream Japan, landing on the top of the pop charts. They even included a mini-CD with the Super Famicom fighter, and he's easily the best at performing live out of all the VGM composers out there. My personalized autograph from him is the most treasured piece in my whole video game related collection. :)
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Post by Bloodreign on May 2, 2006 4:48:27 GMT -5
When you boil it down, Cho Aniki is a great shooter (the ones that are anyway), that is a pretty solid challenge, if you look past the musclebound guys and look at the game itself, it's not bad at all.
The first stage in the Duo Cho Aniki game is pretty tough to me, can't pass the first stage yet (haven't practiced a ton on it, will soon). I place the game in the same wacky mold as Parodius, just without all the site gags, but humorous nonetheless.
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Post by sainttweeter on May 20, 2006 17:33:44 GMT -5
Cho Aniki is for people proud of their bodies. 90% of people aren't proud of their bodies, so they try and tear down peak phsyical specimans by calling them gay!
O...Or something. >_>
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Post by iamstillhiro1112 on May 20, 2006 17:57:52 GMT -5
I don't think you need to play the game. A picture is worth a thousand words. Kurt never showed the slim chinese men in thongs stacked on each other in pyramid form. If you made a image map of every level you couldn't deny that the game goes to great lengths to be appealing to non hetero's. As I said, it might not be meant to be hentai.
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Post by kyouki on Apr 13, 2007 13:53:38 GMT -5
I just got the PS2 game and loved it so much I ordered a used copy of the PS1 game (no matter how terrible it is). I don't see how anyone could claim this game "goes to great lengths to be appealing to non hetero's." This game is both hilarious and creepy and there is nothing attractive about anything in it. It's a big joke. The target of the joke is more bodybuilding and the cult of the male physique than homosexuality (but there is plenty of innuendo). Anyone who has played these games knows there is nothing erotic whatsoever. They're charming and innocent in a way. The sound effects in the PS2 version are hilarious.
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Post by Allie on Apr 13, 2007 23:25:39 GMT -5
I think if you took the average gay male and had him play this game, he's NOT going to find it arousing at all.
Bizarre, borderline offensive, and f'd up as all hell, probably.
But not arousing.
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Post by sideshow on Apr 15, 2007 15:30:20 GMT -5
This series really did deserve an article here though cause you probably never heard of a cho aniki game unless you were a hardcore gamer.
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Post by kyouki on Apr 16, 2007 18:36:45 GMT -5
So today I got Cho Aniki: Kyuukyoku Muteki Ginga Saikyou Otoko (thanks genkivideogames.com). It's pretty good, a lot better than I thought it would be.
It doesn't seem so very hard yet. I made sure to go into the options menu and turn the difficulty down, and the number of lives/continues up. I found it easier using Benten, but that might just be me.
I found there were plenty of power ups in the levels. The strategy I guess (during the early levels) is to avoid the smaller enemies that don't shoot anything, and concentrate on taking out the larger enemies (usually they are the ones that have the power up orbs). Similar to the PS2 game, you can collect the orbs with either your characters or his or her options, but you will need everyone powered up to a degree to get anywhere. By the time I got to the first boss I was maxed out and had plenty of those weapons that collect at the top of the screen. The bosses so far are pretty simple and telegraph their moves pretty well. It helps that (on the easiest difficulty at least) when you die you retain most if not all of your firepower.
The presentation is a little dull. I was hoping for some really impressive animation, but there's a serious lack in this game!!
Otherwise, this one is pretty good! I would say that the PS2 game has superior control and is a bit easier, but the PSX one is much stranger.
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Post by joshf on Apr 16, 2007 22:00:41 GMT -5
I think it's unfair to call the games homophobic because your applying a stigma that's not from the native culture. Japanese boys stick their fingers up their friends asses all the time!
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Post by Allie on Apr 16, 2007 22:06:19 GMT -5
I think it's unfair to call the games homophobic because your applying a stigma that's not from the native culture. Japanese boys stick their fingers up their friends asses all the time! And yet so many kids these days wish they were Japanese. You think they still would if it meant constantly getting fingers up the ass?
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Post by kyouki on Apr 23, 2007 13:37:19 GMT -5
So I enjoyed the PS2 and PSX games so much I went and bought the PC Engine games. I was suprised to see that the production values were pretty high on the earlier games. Tons of parallax scrolling, very detailed sprites, and pretty impressive animation.
Compared to the newer games, it looks like a lot of manly sweat went into making the first couple games.
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Post by ReyVGM on Apr 25, 2007 21:23:53 GMT -5
Japanese boys stick their fingers up their friends asses all the time! WTF?
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