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Post by Allie on Apr 17, 2007 17:43:32 GMT -5
But really, I don't remember any really positive points about 1st ed Shadowrun compared to any other game at the time (more to the opposite); the setting pretty much sold it, I guess, rather than the rules. In my extremely limited pen and paper experiences of any sort, the main person I tended to play these sorts of things with was actually willing to do away with some of the more annoying rules on the fly if it got in the way of an interesting character or storyline idea (so long as it didn't upset any sort of balance of power).... I was just curious if anyone else dealt with people who did that, as well?
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Post by chaoticgood on Apr 17, 2007 18:36:16 GMT -5
But really, I don't remember any really positive points about 1st ed Shadowrun compared to any other game at the time (more to the opposite); the setting pretty much sold it, I guess, rather than the rules. In my extremely limited pen and paper experiences of any sort, the main person I tended to play these sorts of things with was actually willing to do away with some of the more annoying rules on the fly if it got in the way of an interesting character or storyline idea (so long as it didn't upset any sort of balance of power).... I was just curious if anyone else dealt with people who did that, as well? Even in like the original AD&D rules, I believe it says something to the extent that the Dungeon Master can do anything; throw the dice again, or even straight out LIE about the result, if it makes a better story to do so... And everyone of course always removes the rules they find annoying in a game... So, it depends... But you make it sound like you're preparing for a sexual harrasment suit or something. Have you been watching that Tom Hanks film, what's its name...?
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Post by jameseightbitstar on Apr 17, 2007 23:17:06 GMT -5
Even in like the original AD&D rules, I believe it says something to the extent that the Dungeon Master can do anything; throw the dice again, or even straight out LIE about the result, if it makes a better story to do so... Gygax actually said something to the effect that the rules are just guidelines and need not be strictly adhered. There's really sort of a division among Pen n' paper players--one sees them as games, albeit ones with continuing worlds that the choices of your characters affect. The other sees them as stories that the DM lets the players play through, and its the latter camp which does the fudging the dice/convenient for the plot stuff (just more proof that the division between PnP RPGs and electronic ones is just fanboy smoke-n-mirrors) Mazes and Monsters? That was a pretty decent movie. Would be even better if someone sent it to the Satellite of Love.
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Post by morzas on Jun 28, 2007 18:19:04 GMT -5
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Post by Neo Rasa on Jun 29, 2007 15:15:39 GMT -5
I don't know if crippled is the term I'd use. FPS are absurdly easy to play on the PC due to the instant positioning the mouse offers. There's a reason PC FPS difficulty is often handled in terms of lots of one hit kills and more enemies popping up behind you than you'd see in any FPS made specifically for a console. I've been playing it on the 360 a lot now so I could write this up if people are interested. It's kind of a shame that he game is so awesome, since now that Halo 3 is coming out in September no one will ever play it again and it won't sell enough to make them think they should make an RPG. It's sad, the game is extremely good compared to almost any other online FPS I've played. I think I enjoy it more than even the first release of Unreal Tournament, a game I generally consider to be perfect.
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Post by daimakaimura on Jun 29, 2007 15:52:49 GMT -5
amen to that
you can add me if you want my Xboxlive tag is "Deckers"
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Post by hitchhikr on Jan 17, 2009 19:15:43 GMT -5
Hi, Thanks for your most excellent site, i enjoy browsing through it's articles from time to time but : Blade Runner was released in 1982, it's based on a Philip K. Dick book from 1968 (called "Do Androids dream of electric sheeps" back then). Gibson only came later with Neuromancer in 1984 (amusingly Gibson's novel's received the "Philip K. Dick Award" among other awards).
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Post by derboo on Jan 17, 2009 19:26:18 GMT -5
Oddly enough, I wouldn't say Dick's novel is much of a "cyberpunk" work.
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Post by hitchhikr on Jan 17, 2009 20:31:17 GMT -5
Perhaps not, although the Mercer empathy box (not present in the movie) :
is rather interesting retrospectively and could be understood as a form of Virtual Reality. After all, we too are sharing experience right now via our very own "Empathy boxes" which we call "Computers" (consider nowadays online gaming craze, for example).
I was just pointing some errors in the article anyway.
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Post by derboo on Sept 1, 2013 20:35:24 GMT -5
This has finally gotten an update to cover the FPS game, and of course Shadowrun Returns!
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Post by roushimsx on Sept 1, 2013 21:24:21 GMT -5
Darn shame about how the FPS turned out. If they hadn't botched the PC port so hard (requiring both a paid XBL membership AND Vista just to play it) I think it could have found a much stronger audience and not been so negatively lambasted. But like y'all said, Gotham City Imposters nails that kind of stuff so much better, but it also has the benefit of years of improved distribution and lessons learned. Plus, you know, Monolith. Even post-buyout, them guys can make a game. Can't wait to play the new Shadowrun. Man does that sound fucking pimptight. Just need time.
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Post by derboo on Sept 1, 2013 22:08:58 GMT -5
Darn, every time I want to write unofficial, my German gets in the way... Is "is" wrong though? I always thought it should be singular because it gramatically refers to "number" instead of "modules".
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Post by Weasel on Sept 1, 2013 23:01:49 GMT -5
Darn, every time I want to write unofficial, my German gets in the way... Is "is" wrong though? I always thought it should be singular because it gramatically refers to "number" instead of "modules". The English syntax of that sort of construct would actually be referring to the modules and not the number, so the conjunction used would be "are."
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Post by Narushima on Sept 2, 2013 9:19:26 GMT -5
"better equipment of a more skilled squad" > "or a more skilled" "the eyes and the main torso" > the main torso ? As opposed to the secondary one we all have?
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Post by Resident Tsundere on Sept 6, 2013 20:35:50 GMT -5
I want to check out the new Shadowrun game, but I don't know if my puny computer could handle it or not. D:
I forgot to mention that the screenshot to the right of the paragraph about the canceled PC Shadownrun action game from '98 looks familiar to me, yet I'm certain I've never seen it before. Weird.
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