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Post by Weasel on Aug 30, 2008 23:59:24 GMT -5
Okay, I'm at the point where my 21st Century Entertainment pinball games article has hit a standstill. I've got screenshots and music rips of nearly everything, but there are games that I have not acquired and really need.
I need help finding the following: - Pinball Fantasies Deluxe (PSX): Did this come out anywhere other than Japan? - Slam Tilt Resurrection (PC): There are apparently versions of this that only come with one table each? I need all four tables. - Pinball World (PC): I need a LEGIT, CD-ROM based copy of the game if anybody can find it at all. The abandonware versions circulating the 'Net all lack the CD audio tracks, which I need!
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Post by zellsf on Aug 31, 2008 5:08:38 GMT -5
Assuming you're not afraid of illegal copies, Pinball Fantasies Deluxe is on Snesorama, and Pinball World is on Underground Gamer (seems to be with CD tracks, 150+ MB).
Is Slam Tilt Resurrection really obscure or does it have another name? Only 2500 results on Google.
Edit: Ah, yes, the Pinball World torrent on Underground Gamer does have CD audio. Edit 2:"I would like to trade this keyboard for an original (i.e. legal!), unscratched *english* version of "Slam Tilt : Resurrection" (European version) or "Avery Cardoza's Slam Tilt Pinball" (US version). Please note that this is not the same game as the original "Slam Tilt Pinball", which I already own." There's an alternative title to search for I guess.
If you're looking for legal copies I can't help you much, but I'm pretty sure the PSX version of Pinball Fantasies Deluxe was only released in Japan.
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Post by Weasel on Aug 31, 2008 14:45:24 GMT -5
Assuming you're not afraid of illegal copies, Pinball Fantasies Deluxe is on Snesorama Yes, it is - complete with broken links. I'd appreciate a link through PM when you get the chance. I'm guessing it's just really obscure, seems it only got released in portions of Europe - the version I have (courtesy of TPB) contains the Pirates table only and is partially in German. It is also a CD-Rip version and lacks music (and stability).
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Post by zellsf on Aug 31, 2008 14:56:47 GMT -5
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Post by Weasel on Aug 31, 2008 15:11:36 GMT -5
An invite would be much appreciated, and thank you for the PFD download link - somehow it escaped my notice.
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Post by zellsf on Aug 31, 2008 15:13:18 GMT -5
Ok, sent you an invite.
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Post by Weasel on Aug 31, 2008 17:50:46 GMT -5
Thank you very much! And now I've got Pinball World working, plus Pinball Illusions with the CD tracks (which by god I've been looking for almost as long as World).
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Post by Weasel on Feb 5, 2009 14:00:14 GMT -5
I was once working on an article on 21st Century Entertainment's pinball games. I've become very stuck, though...as there are some games I need to profile that are impossible to find (intact). These games are:
Pinball Builder - A Windows 3.1-based pinball construction app by Spidersoft. Almost nobody seems to have a download link for this, let alone a place to purchase.
Slam Tilt Resurrection - I understand this game was also released as a budget title under the name Avery Cardoza's Slam Tilt Pinball? I've found only ripped versions with no audio and only one table. The retail release was supposed to be on two CD's with Pirate and Demon tables included. Ganymede Technologies no longer sells this - I've asked them - and there don't appear to be any secondhand copies around.
Electronic Pinball - 21st's last game, a DOS/Windows hybrid. I can only find the HOTU CD-rip version which lacks audio and has serious trouble working through DOSBox and every other virtualizer program I've tried. Would appreciate a full ISO or even a location I can buy this.
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Post by Discoalucard on Feb 5, 2009 18:22:24 GMT -5
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Post by Weasel on Feb 6, 2009 22:34:58 GMT -5
Yeah, trying to figure out how wide a release Electronic Pinball got, probably not much of one because 21st Century pretty much died after releasing it...
Just pounced on the two links you found me; had to dig a little through the different sellers for Slam Tilt because many of them indicated that they were not actually the Cardoza game but rather the original Slam Tilt, which is a different game entirely. Pinball Builder for less than a buck? Sold.
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Post by Weasel on Jan 27, 2011 2:07:37 GMT -5
It's been two years - here's what I have of the article. I have HUGE amounts of content that I still need to cover (need to write more about Pinball 4000, Electronic Pinball, Obsession/Absolute, and Thomas Pinball, as well as needing to get screenshots and music rips. There are a number of things I still haven't managed myself. First: Apparently there now exist Playstation 3 versions of the Pinball Dreams and Pinball Fantasies ports by Cowboy Rodeo. I don't have the money to purchase these games yet again, so if any kind soul could either purchase the PS3 Minis version of either of them for themselves or gift me a copy, that would be greatly appreciated and your name will certainly go into the article's special thanks section. Second: Electronic Pinball is fucking hard to find in any form other than Home of the Underdogs' CD-rip version (which lacks music). I can't really call the article completed unless I can get some feel for what the game is supposed to be like, so any assistance tracking down this horribly hard-to-search title would be hugely appreciated. I'm almost wondering if that's even the real name of this game... Finally: I haven't been able to get the Amiga version of Obsession to work - if anybody can figure this out and give some pointers (maybe I'm just setting up WinUAE incorrectly), I'd appreciate the help. [edit] Also, uh, I forgot that this thread was in Article Discussion, and I'm not sure if it should be here given that I haven't submitted this article yet - could I get a staffer's opinion on this? Should it be in Off-Topic?
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Post by jorpho on Jan 27, 2011 14:00:31 GMT -5
I can only find the HOTU CD-rip version which lacks audio and has serious trouble working through DOSBox and every other virtualizer program I've tried. Sounds like a challenge! Or did you already get it working without the music?
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Post by Weasel on Jan 27, 2011 17:28:30 GMT -5
I can only find the HOTU CD-rip version which lacks audio and has serious trouble working through DOSBox and every other virtualizer program I've tried. Sounds like a challenge! Or did you already get it working without the music? Well at this point, it works decently enough in DOSBox (0.74 fixes some of the issues I'd been having) but the CD-Rip version lacks music, and there is also a portion in the Windows version of the game where you can see an animated "Hybrid" logo - Hybrid is a warez scene group, and I imagine the animation probably used to be something else, so it looks dumb in the screenshots. Having the actual disc (or a complete ISO) would be necessary.
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Post by Weasel on Jan 30, 2011 0:32:37 GMT -5
I've discovered why Electronic Pinball is so hard to find (outside of it being near impossible to search for): it was never finished! According to this Tower of Pin article, dated when 21st Century Entertainment went bankrupt, Electronic Pinball was on a backburner and was one of the casualties when they ran out of money and closed up shop. The only reason we can download a copy of it from the abandonware sites today is because someone leaked the last beta version. Maybe that explains why it's so buggy and broken! Well, scratch one from the list...I do still need to get my hands on the PS3 versions of Dreams and Fantasies, get more screenshots and music rips (that'll be the really tricky part), and get Obsession working (I already have comparison screenshots of the Desert Run table between the Amiga and STe versions, and I can run the STe version well enough, so I could just populate the Obsession article with shots of that version and separate out the Absolute stuff into its own heading, since it's a separate game).
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Post by Weasel on Aug 1, 2011 21:31:10 GMT -5
Noticed there's no article thread on this yet. hardcoregaming101.net/21stpinball/21stpinball.htmI spent way too long writing this, and may have gone overboard. It might not seem overboard just from what's here, but really, there's another 20-some games left that Kurt hasn't reformatted/uploaded yet (I'm being patient though...)
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