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Post by Discoalucard on Nov 8, 2013 0:18:05 GMT -5
www.hardcoregaming101.net/lionheart/lionheart.htmIn contract to the Euro platformer bashing going on in the Mickey Mania thread, Derboo presents us with the forgotten Amiga classic Lionheart, which combines the gorgeous graphics of something like Shadow of the Beast, but with much, much better gameplay. Sad to hear about the emulators woes, though. I wonder how well the fan remakes hold up in XP, I've still got an aging machine around here.
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Post by Snarboo on Nov 8, 2013 0:25:40 GMT -5
Lionheart emulates fine in FS-UAE. It even runs well on an emulated Amiga 500! Then again, I still can't beat the first world, so I can't say if it holds up further in.
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Post by derboo on Nov 8, 2013 1:21:02 GMT -5
Really? I get an even worse framerate for the game in FS-UAE than in WinUAE, no matter which Amiga configuration I assign it to. In WinUAE, it's just annoying. In FS-UAE, the game is borderline unplayable for me.
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Post by Narushima on Nov 8, 2013 7:42:10 GMT -5
I remember managing to play it comfortably on WinUAE. Did not like the gameplay, though.
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Post by derboo on Nov 8, 2013 8:51:24 GMT -5
Watched a few videos of this game on youtube. Of course there it might also have to do with the recording process, but all the ones I saw had bad framerate issues. I had no audio, so I don't know if any of the uploaders commented on it.
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Post by starscream on Nov 8, 2013 10:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by derboo on Nov 8, 2013 10:59:38 GMT -5
The audio problems are always tied to the slowdown for me. Whenever the game runs slower than it should, the music starts scratching. I should note that I don't get that in FS-UAE, but in that emulator I can't even beat the first world because the framerate stutters so badly. I'm also reluctant to believe that it's just my PC, cause no other Amiga game has ever given me any troubles.
EDIT: The thread linked above seems to imply that it would run better on an Amiga with Fast Ram, but when that is set in either variant of the emulator, the game simply won't boot.
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Post by nickz on Nov 9, 2013 22:33:25 GMT -5
Oh wow! I loved Lionheart! Definitely one of the best games I've played on Amiga, right up there with Turrican 2. I'm real happy to see an article on it. I didn't know Thalion did other games. I like how there's plenty of pictures on this one too. It really is a great looking game.
I knew about the remakes of Lionheart, but could never be bothered to get them. A lot of old Commodore 64/Amiga stuff seems to have gotten remade over the years. Maybe I should check them out when I have more time.
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Post by derboo on Nov 9, 2013 22:55:08 GMT -5
Alright, I don't know that I did anything I hadn't tried before, but I somehow got the game running stable in FS-UAE. So I amended that passage about emulators a bit.
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Post by Gendo Ikari on Nov 10, 2013 6:26:02 GMT -5
One day I'll have to seriously start trying to get Amiga emus right. Every time I try I get some headaches.
Thalion was also known for the RPGs Amberstar and Ambermoon, the latter came out just before the company folded, so an English version emerged only later and unofficially, and a PC version never came to be. Albion is a spiritual successor (it was made by some ex-Thalion employees and published by Blue Byte). I also remember their puzzle game Atomix fondly.
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Post by starscream on Nov 11, 2013 13:00:16 GMT -5
The audio problems are always tied to the slowdown for me. Whenever the game runs slower than it should, the music starts scratching. I should note that I don't get that in FS-UAE, but in that emulator I can't even beat the first world because the framerate stutters so badly. I'm also reluctant to believe that it's just my PC, cause no other Amiga game has ever given me any troubles. EDIT: The thread linked above seems to imply that it would run better on an Amiga with Fast Ram, but when that is set in either variant of the emulator, the game simply won't boot. I just did a little testing. Adding Fast Ram to my A1200 config under WinUAE seems to make the loading loop. Adding 1 MB Fast Ram to 1 MB Chip of my A500/ECS AGNUS config lets the game boot. I played the first area till some kind of passage the character entered , played also through that without issues. I also tried an A3000 config (68030+Kickstart 2.04 + 8MB Fast RAM Advanced Memory). It booted, but for some reason there was a lot of flickering. I reverted back to an old version of WinUae (1.43) and there it disappared. In any case, I think if this game would be really that problematic, it would have been reported at the English Amiga board and elsewhere, that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe it's really just one non-obvious setting that makes it work fine.
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Post by apachacha on Nov 11, 2013 13:55:18 GMT -5
Game looks nice but I'm sort of afraid of playing it due to past experience of getting quite a long ways into a game and it then crapping out.
And since I have no idea how to use WHDownload or whatever it's called and never found a simple enough tutorial explaining what you have to do, I can really only use the regular rom files.
Also it seems to be one of those games that take over an hour and a half to complete in a speedrun. I never got why some simple action games on the Amiga were made to be so monstrously long (like Venus: the flytrap for example)
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Post by Bobinator on Nov 11, 2013 18:06:36 GMT -5
FS-UAE is pretty much the only thing you should be using when it comes to Amiga emulation. I mean, the thing even has decent netplay, the last time I checked! Not that it'll do you this much for this game, since it's single player, but still.
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Post by Joseph Joestar on Nov 12, 2013 7:49:01 GMT -5
Interesting - for a moment I was expecting to see a licensed game based on the Van Damme movie.
BTW, in the 12th paragraph it should say "good" ending (unless your character turns into a god or something).
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Post by jjc14 on Nov 23, 2013 20:48:02 GMT -5
An additional minor edit (assuming this isn't actually a related game): Lionhead is just as much influenced by the console tradition.
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