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Post by wyrdwad on Aug 16, 2014 16:06:05 GMT -5
The thing with the story in Blue Dragon is, it's not really generic... it's just insane. It's off-the-rails stupid, and that's what makes it so fun to play. Lasers hidden behind the moon? Sure, why not! This is Blue Dragon -- anything's possible here. -Tom I'd wish I could have made it to something like that. I have to agree with Weasel, it just felt generic. If you get a chance to go back and play farther, it might be worth your time. Things really start to get trippy and surreal after a while, and the ending is just... SO weird. It involves cubes. In fact, a lot of the endgame involves cubes. I could say more, but it would be a spoiler, so... yeah... if you like cubes, you won't be disappointed, I guess? -Tom
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Post by jjmcjj on Aug 16, 2014 21:07:12 GMT -5
It is a BIG console, but it is extremely durableExcept that there's recently been a rash of OG Xboxes suiciding from corroded hardware? It definitely wasn't built to last. I can attest to this. I used my Xbox at the time both for games and as a DVD player. Increasingly it was having harder and harder times playing movie rentals, with them stopping, stuttering and freezing at points, then (sometimes) resuming to normal. I thought at first this was just because of the discs (you know people generally aren't the type to treat rental discs with the most pristine of care), but it turned out... to be the Xbox's problem. The breaking point was when somewhere in the middle of the movie Cube it refused to play normally past its start/stutter point at all. I tried a different DVD player just to see if it would play better and it did! I managed to finish the movie! I still continued to use it for movies though whenever possible and the second breaking point was when I put in the disc for The Manchurian Candidate... which it refused to play at all. Just a black screen. On the other DVD player though, I actually got to see it! All of it, Frank Sinatra and all! OK so enough about movies, what about games? I had a demo disc from an Xbox magazine which had Silent Hill 4 on it, and as I was playing it the game crashed at some point. Still, naively assuming it may have been a fault with the demo (despite it being packaged in a pristine, non-retarded way, unlike OPM during its last years when they went from paper sleeves like what a normal person would use to that shit which was stuck together with sticky glue and the disc shoved in there getting the glue stuck on it, making the discs pretty much unplayable - the fuck was up with that?) I bought the retail version. The couple times I played it it crashed as well. I don't remember testing other games, but seeing how I wasn't going to get anywhere with this game anyway, and considering the problems I had with the movies, and whatever few games I owned for the system I was done with (on hindsight there were a number of Xbox games I missed out on I wanted to get but I don't regret getting rid of this thing). So, bye bye Xbox, and also farewell to the games I had, which whatever money I got from them I used for... who the fuck knows. Probably something I also sold later on (this is pretty much the only way I've ever been able to afford to get most of the games I've played for the most part). Though I can't attest to owning tons of systems, of all of them this is the only one I've ever had (which includes or for most of these included... NES, SNES, Game Boy o.g., Game Boy Advance, DS, Gamecube, PlayStation, PS2, Genesis, Game Gear, even a Virtual Boy once - I also recently got a RetroDuo which I've only played a few times so far, no comment on that yet really) which decided to corrode on me. It didn't outright die out on me, but the signs were there. I got rid of it so I wouldn't have to witness that inevitability.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 21:09:13 GMT -5
PS2 had the same problem. The laser gets worn out if you use it too much, which is easy enough to do if you use it for games and movies. I've personally gone through three units over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 22:30:49 GMT -5
Every system with a disc drive is vulnerable to laser failure. There's a popular unconfirmed claim that playing CD-Rs and music CDs on the Dreamcast will wear out the motor faster, because it was designed to play GD-ROMs.
I owned a 32X that started leaking black fluid after being played for a while. Worked fine after it drained out, though. I did lose a SNES to corroded contacts once.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 22:57:05 GMT -5
Makes sense. My Saturn, Gamecube, Wii, and original Xbox never wore out, but I barely used them. I went through three PS1s and four Dreamcasts, though.
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Post by Woody Alien on Aug 19, 2014 10:58:39 GMT -5
An example of game whose charm still hasn't been captured is "The Guardian Legend" for NES. To my knowledge there isn't anything quite like it (RPG plus shmup), and if there is, it's an inferior copy like Sigma Star Saga. Too bad Compile isn't around any more...
Another one is Earthworm Jim, just because it is something that could not be replicated: the second game was already trying too hard, and the less about the other ones the better.
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Post by The Great Klaid on Aug 19, 2014 11:28:06 GMT -5
An example of game whose charm still hasn't been captured is "The Guardian Legend" for NES. To my knowledge there isn't anything quite like it (RPG plus shmup), and if there is, it's an inferior copy like Sigma Star Saga. Too bad Compile isn't around any more... Another one is Earthworm Jim, just because it is something that could not be replicated: the second game was already trying too hard, and the less about the other ones the better. I've never actually heard anyone say that about Earthworm Jim 2. I actually felt it expounded upon it's weirdness. And it was kind of better for not having so many "normal" levels. Because those were kind of dull and not really the reason you played Earthworm Jim. They're both classics, and they'll never be matched.
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Post by fullspectrumwarrior on Aug 19, 2014 14:22:20 GMT -5
Original Xbox had a few different disk drives in it, some of which were better than others. There's pictures online of what the disc tray inside looks like for which brand it is but the later ones, the Samsung brand drives with 2 nickel sized holes, are still going strong today. The other two, Phillips & Thompson drives which make up the majority of Xboxes sold, were all junk from day 1.
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Post by Woody Alien on Aug 21, 2014 13:05:42 GMT -5
I've never actually heard anyone say that about Earthworm Jim 2. I actually felt it expounded upon it's weirdness. And it was kind of better for not having so many "normal" levels. Because those were kind of dull and not really the reason you played Earthworm Jim. They're both classics, and they'll never be matched. I always thought that there was method in the madness of EWJ 1, and the second was just weird for the sake of being weird. But that's just my opinion of course.
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Post by moran on Aug 21, 2014 13:31:16 GMT -5
I've never actually heard anyone say that about Earthworm Jim 2. I actually felt it expounded upon it's weirdness. And it was kind of better for not having so many "normal" levels. Because those were kind of dull and not really the reason you played Earthworm Jim. They're both classics, and they'll never be matched. I always thought that there was method in the madness of EWJ 1, and the second was just weird for the sake of being weird. But that's just my opinion of course. I feel the same way about EWJ 2. EWJ just seemed a little more foucsed in its weirdness and EWJ 2 seemed like it was just trying to one-up the first.
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