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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 8:50:54 GMT -5
Post by derboo on Jan 14, 2016 8:50:54 GMT -5
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 9:12:01 GMT -5
Post by TheChosen on Jan 14, 2016 9:12:01 GMT -5
The legendary stealth/action/RPG cyberpunk saga about bionic old men
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 9:47:07 GMT -5
Post by Neo Rasa on Jan 14, 2016 9:47:07 GMT -5
People knock that PS2 port all the time but it's actually really good. One thing that's really cool about it is that since they had to add some new content to create the breaks between areas (since each place is broken into sub areas because of the PS2's limitations) instead of just making walls they actually made things more accurate to real life.
The dock at the beginning of the game is a good example, in the PS2 version they added in the ticket booth/etc. stuff that's really there. The Paris streets area is improved too as a result of the PS2's different limitations. It ends up being a bit more realistic as the streets are made narrower but have a higher number of pedestrian models walking around than the original does. Very nice effort.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 11:04:54 GMT -5
Post by Discoalucard on Jan 14, 2016 11:04:54 GMT -5
The PS2 version was the one I played to completion back around when it came out, since my PC couldn't quite run it. I wouldn't play it nowadays just on the basis of the framerate, which got pretty choppy anytime you were fighting more than one enemy, but at the time, it was pretty decent for what it was. I never realized how much brighter the PS2 version was to compensate for the lack of lighting effects though. It's much less moody but easier to see (especially on CRTs for the time).
I added in a link to a Steam community thread that did several screenshot comparisons. Most areas look better on the PC but some are improved in the PS2.
It's interesting to see how it was accepted by console gamers compared to PC gamers. It was GOTY when it came out on the PC, but the console audience seemed relatively indifferent to it. It got decent but not fantastic reviews. I guess it's not as finely tuned to a console as Halo was, but even then it's still a much much better game.
On my winter break in 2002, I bought both this and Metroid Prime on the same day. It was a pretty incredibly vacation.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 11:13:33 GMT -5
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Post by Neo Rasa on Jan 14, 2016 11:13:33 GMT -5
On my winter break in 2002, I bought both this and Metroid Prime on the same day. It was a pretty incredibly vacation. When you got back I remember how hyped we were for Invisible War vs the reality of its XBox release.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 11:21:02 GMT -5
Post by Discoalucard on Jan 14, 2016 11:21:02 GMT -5
That was the whole reason I wanted an Xbox too! Which then got delayed until the end of 2003 anyway.
I still enjoyed Invisible War quite a bit, even if it wasn't up to snuff compared to the original, just because these kind of FPS-RPG hybrids are pretty rare. I tried to revisit it a few years ago but had problems running it on my PC.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 11:28:46 GMT -5
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Post by Neo Rasa on Jan 14, 2016 11:28:46 GMT -5
I never played it past the tutorial area til just a couple of years ago, it is pretty good! I do think it's hurt by having so many factions though. There are too many indestructable leader characters that never get too mad at you and keep giving you missions no matter how badly you hurt them or how many of their side you kill.
But Invisible War IS one of the few games where you can flame thrower a school yard full of kids, which is ironic since "you can't even kill kids" became one of the "dumbed down for idiot console players" talking points for most of the mid aughts.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 11:38:11 GMT -5
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Post by Weasel on Jan 14, 2016 11:38:11 GMT -5
Invisible War is, imo, at its best when you make it your mission to kill absolutely everything. Considering half the arsenal consists of status effect weapons that are better used as implements of torture (especially the bolt caster) due to their relatively low damage compared to ammo cost, and the fact that the Muscles mod lets you kill dudes by throwing crates and beer bottles at them, I have loads of fun on this aspect alone.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 15:19:16 GMT -5
Post by Maciej Miszczyk on Jan 14, 2016 15:19:16 GMT -5
The legendary stealth/action/RPG cyberpunk saga about bionic old menelectronic old men running the world! I still enjoyed Invisible War quite a bit, even if it wasn't up to snuff compared to the original, just because these kind of FPS-RPG hybrids are pretty rare. I tried to revisit it a few years ago but had problems running it on my PC. was it maybe this Realtek glitch I mentioned in the article? because there is still no patch for that, even today.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 17:51:22 GMT -5
Post by akumajobelmont on Jan 14, 2016 17:51:22 GMT -5
Good article, though I'm a little disappointed that there's not much of a mention in the article about the Xbox version of Deus Ex... that version did a few really interesting things with the hardware. I could have sworn that the Xbox port features some kind of dynamic resolution scaling going on, much like The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, but a little less pronounced. It was definitely noticeable back in the day on a regular CRT, and even more so now, with decent component cables on today's higher resolution displays. As much as Invisible War gets knocked these days, I still really, really enjoy the game. The soundtrack is brilliant too - a little more understated than the first game, but I like it Also, Project Snowblind was released on all major platforms at the time, it would have been nice to perhaps go into some of the performance differences, or lack thereof, between all versions. Still, glad to see the series represented on the site
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 18:06:30 GMT -5
Post by Weasel on Jan 14, 2016 18:06:30 GMT -5
Also, Project Snowblind was released on all major platforms at the time, it would have been nice to perhaps go into some of the performance differences, or lack thereof, between all versions. As far as I can tell, it's pretty identical between PC and Xbox, but I haven't tried the PS2 version. The PC version, IIRC, doesn't have a lot of graphics options.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 18:37:00 GMT -5
Post by akumajobelmont on Jan 14, 2016 18:37:00 GMT -5
Also, Project Snowblind was released on all major platforms at the time, it would have been nice to perhaps go into some of the performance differences, or lack thereof, between all versions. As far as I can tell, it's pretty identical between PC and Xbox, but I haven't tried the PS2 version. The PC version, IIRC, doesn't have a lot of graphics options. Yeah, the PC version is a bit of a pain to get running properly on modern systems. I know I personally have had a hard time getting any of the video cutscenes to play properly, and I get all sorts of graphical glitches. I did recently purchase the Xbox version however, and it's pretty great. It's a game that I never really paid much attention to back in the day, aside from reading some reviews upon it's release, so I was pleasantly surprised at how good the game is. At least in single-player, I haven't had a chance to try out the multiplayer yet. I've tried the PS2 version in PCSX2, though, but can't really gauge graphic, gameplay and performance differences because it's emulation. I find PS2 emulation to be pretty spotty in general - the games run great, but a lot of the graphical quirks of the PS2 can either be completely eliminated, or at the opposite end of the spectrum, compounded with emulation. The visual style in Snowblind reminds me a LOT of the Timeplitters games. The characters follow the same kind of exaggerated design, just not as over-the-top. Texture work, especially when it comes to the environments is similar though.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 19:55:04 GMT -5
Post by GamerL on Jan 14, 2016 19:55:04 GMT -5
Coincidentally I'm planning on replaying Deus Ex again soon, interesting to see this article pop up at this time. People knock that PS2 port all the time but it's actually really good. The PS2 port was the first version of the game I played, it blew me away because I had never played a game with such a level of freedom in how you could play it before, there were actually quite a few PC ports that came out for the PS2 around that time that I also played including the PS2 Half-Life and the PS2 No One Lives Forever, I credit those ports with making me interested in PC gaming and eventually acquiring a gaming capable PC in late 2009. I actually bought a used copy of the PS2 Deus Ex once and I'm curious in maybe replaying it one day as well, though I want to give the PC version another go beforehand so the differences between the two will be clearer, I'm very curious to see just what's different in the PS2 version.
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 21:26:48 GMT -5
Post by bakudandan on Jan 14, 2016 21:26:48 GMT -5
The game is practically a documentary
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Deus Ex
Jan 14, 2016 22:41:46 GMT -5
Post by GamerL on Jan 14, 2016 22:41:46 GMT -5
Oh yeah, some of the stuff in Deus Ex is downright eerie when viewed through a modern light.
In fact, I imagine it's only a matter of time until there's a real life UNATCO type organization.
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